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meow905



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: syria Reply with quote

I am leaving for a position in Syria within the next week (or so the school keeps telling me anyway).... does anyone have any advice for living and teaching there? Shocked Shocked
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mouse5



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:37 am    Post subject: Syria Reply with quote

Let us know where you're moving to and we'll be able to give you some advice. Who are you going to be working for?
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meow905



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: syria Reply with quote

thanks for replying.... I am headed for Damascus.... and working for Sabis international schools
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caliph



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Sabis school in Abu Dhabi has a good reputation. A lot of Embassy children go there because they have a TEFL program, which most other schools do not.

As far as Damascus is concerned, it's a pretty good place, and your salary should put you at the top of the local earning scale.

The most important thing to keep in mind there, as well as in most Arab/Muslim countries is to observe the "Holy Trinity", that is:

DO NOT discuss Religion, Sex or Politics!
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DO NOT discuss Religion, Sex or Politics!


Personally, I would be cautious about discusing these subjects in the classroom just about anywhere in the world, at least until I got to know the students a bit.
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meow905



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: syria Reply with quote

Thanks for the info about SABIS..... and Damascus.......
What about timelines..... this process is taking forever.... it has been 1 month and I am still home, although they reasure me there is a job waiting for me?
Has anyone else have any advice or guidence for this issue?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Middle East is famous for its slow bureaucracy, so that could be the problem.

If you are American, that could be slowing things. A friend of mine had so many problems with visa issues that she finally gave up and left.

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caliph



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching adults in North America, Europe, and Japan, I would not hesitate to talk about the holy trinity, if the students brought them up.

I would NEVER discuss these things in in the muddle east, no matter how well I knew my students.
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helmsman



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Holy Trinity", that is:

DO NOT discuss Religion, Sex or Politics!

Never say never. Working in the GCC I sometimes surprise myself at what I get away with. The key is to let the students bring it up first, then if you trust them, go ahead, very cautiously. I don't believe in being reckless, but neither should we be paralysed with fear. I have explained what contraception is without going into details, but never goten into something like sex positions. Sometimes it is impossible to ignore something like the war in Iraq so deal with it in an academic manner. I repeat though, you've got to be able to trust the whole class. And you have got to be able to justify your actions if you are questioned on it. Ultimetely I think most students get a thrill out of discussing these so-called Holy Trinity subjects.
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Never say never. Working in the GCC I sometimes surprise myself at what I get away with. The key is to let the students bring it up first, then if you trust them, go ahead, very cautiously.


I would say that over the years I have become more rather than less cautious about what I discuss in class. But like you, I am often surprised at what people get away with discussing with students, especially if they are of the more 'liberal' variety. I think the key to 'discussing' 'controversial' subjects in class is to let the students do most of the talking. As a teacher, you can prompt them or make a few bland comments, but so long as you don't get too involved you should be OK. Obviously, there are certain subjects I would steer well clear of no matter how 'liberal' the students, but I think with caution, such "semi-controversial" topics as women's rights or the war in Iraq (or Palestine, or Lebanon....) can sometimes be broached.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, but it is sometimes the most innocuous thing that has them running to admin to complain. In one writing class working on a project about different countries, I had a student rush down and make a huge dowsha because I pointed out that population numbers include everyone who is living there. She was livid that the UAE population number included people who were not Emiratis. (speaking of racism) Rolling Eyes

I explained the system and how if their brother was in the US when they did the census there, he was counted... and since I was in the UAE, I would be counted in theirs. She was just appalled that the workers and servants would be counted. It went as far as her parents calling in about it.

Fortunately the Emiratis in HCT management handled it properly and supported the teacher. But it is often silly stuff like this where management will cave in to parents. I never had a problem when controversial stuff came up. I think the number one taboo is local politics... international current events were never a problem.

Now... what was the topic of this thread again?

VS
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree, but it is sometimes the most innocuous thing that has them running to admin to complain.


True - that's why I say that over the years, I have become more, not less cautious in such matters. I've never had major problems myself (something which sometimes surprises me in retrospect, when I look back at some of the in-class conversations I had in my greener days) but I have had a few near misses. It's always better to be safe than sorry in this regard, though as your example shows, you can never entirely predict what is going to 'offend' one student - and it only ever takes one.

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I think the number one taboo is local politics... international current events were never a problem.


I agree with that too. I have had a few fairly involved discussions about Bush, Sharon, Saddam .... but the subject of local elites is most definately best avoided. Especially when you work in a private college and you never know whose uncle, father or cousin you might be gossipping about!
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