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grizzlies03
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject: culture shock |
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Hey
I want to teach a class on culture shock, since a lot of my students want to learn about foreign cultures. I know what my biggest shocks were when I came to China, but what were yours?
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Jolly

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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: culture shock |
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| grizzlies03 wrote: |
Hey
I want to teach a class on culture shock, since a lot of my students want to learn about foreign cultures. I know what my biggest shocks were when I came to China, but what were yours?
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Here's a great website that may be helpful.
http://edweb.sdsu.edu/people/CGuanipa/cultshok.htm
It's even in Spanish! But I think culture shock in any foreign countries has its similarities.
Cultural shock for me was gradual. I think the biggest thing was the drivers, no traffic lights, and people walking with young children trying to cross a 6 lane highway! One day I saw a man trying to cross in the middle (of course) of a busy highway -- in a wheelchair. It made me wonder!
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goman72
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 61 Location: Gosford, NSW, Australia.
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| One day I saw a man trying to cross in the middle (of course) of a busy highway -- in a wheelchair. It made me wonder! |
... that's when you wished you had a camera on you (a digital) so you could email it to every tom, dick and harry in the office (not in China tho!!).
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Norman Bethune
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Culture Shock is nothing but an intense feeling of being isolated and alienated within a society different than one's own.
When I came to China, I thought I was experiencing culture shock when I became angry or annoyed at the minor daily hassles I had to endure here. Sometimes being in a room full of people I would feel isolated or alienated because I looked different and spoke a different language.
Then I had an epiphany. I didn't have culture shock at all. It was just the normal existential angst I experience everyday, in the West or China.
Everything that annoyed me here, annoyed me in Canada too.
There are Idiots sent to try us everywhere.
You can be alienated anywhere.
Culture shock...what a crock. |
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Old Dog

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 564 Location: China
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject: Givens |
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I think "culture shock" is real and hits most potently when, one day, you suddenly realize that the "givens" you thought everyone here was working to bear little relationship to your "givens" or downright contradict them. Then you think you're on Mars.
But it passes. |
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randyj
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 460 Location: Nanjing, Jiangsu, China
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tofuman
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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In the States, I expect people in responsible positions to tell me the truth, although they do not always comply. Here, I expect people in responsible positions to lie, although they do not always comply.
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Roger
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"Culture shock" was never my favourite noun because I keep hearing it mostly from expats in foreign cultures, and I never heard it from immigrants to western societies. There might be a tendency to overemphasise a problem that westerners perceive and that is less of an issue to citizens in other countries.
The term "culture shock" might in fact gain in importance if you talk about it before these young learners are actually confronted with a situation that could be conducive to "culture shock".
I would focus on the fact that in most countries, several different cultures coexist. This certainly is true of Asian and African nations with their typical dichotomies of rural versus city populations. Can you imagine how alienated a Shanghainese might feel in the Gobi desert or on the Mongolian grasslands? Equally, Tibetans transplanted to Guangzhou or Shenzhen don't fit in perfectly. There even are a lot of subtle differences between the various locales and provinces which inevitably leads to parochial attitudes and ostracism between the various regional groups.
Just watch for those migrant construction workers in a big city - and see how locals treat them! |
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Babala

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1303 Location: Henan
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| I taught a class on culture shock before when I was teaching college. I put them in small groups and assigned each of them a different country and asked them if they went to this country, what culture shocks do they think they would experience and why? It was an interesting lesson and it gave a chance to clear up some ignorances they may have had about some cultures. |
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Norman Bethune
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Roger wrote: |
"Culture shock" was never my favourite noun because I keep hearing it mostly from expats in foreign cultures, and I never heard it from immigrants to western societies. There might be a tendency to overemphasise a problem that westerners perceive and that is less of an issue to citizens in other countries."
I would focus on the fact that in most countries, several different cultures coexist. |
You're on to something Roger.
What westerners percieve as being an actual psychological condition, most immigrants to the west just see as part of living in a place different than their homeland. No big deal.
Foreigners who complain of culture shock usually cite the same things as examples of the condition. They say things like" "Everyone lies in this place. You can't trust anyone here like you can back home. All the givens I knew don't apply here. Nothing tastes the same. These people just don't get it. They don't understand how to do things right. I can't make friends here, I feel so alone."
I would suggest those complaints are not made as a result of being in a foriegn culture and experiencing culture shock, but from the chronic condition known as being an arsehole.
Foreigners in their homelands are exposed to so many different cultural influences on a daily basis (think of any multi-cultural western society and you get the picture), and travel outside their homelands often. They have some experience and knowledge of what the differences between cultures are already. When they then claim to have culture shock when living abroad is a cop out or just another way of saying, "I'am a superior westerner and you other people aren't doing things the way I like."
George Bush is suffering from Culture shock, not the average FT in CHina. |
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