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freesolo



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:36 am    Post subject: not wanted Reply with quote

polyglot emailed me and said they didnt want me cause i have a us passport. are all their teachers from the uk??
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kaw



Joined: 31 Mar 2003
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Location: somewhere hot and sunny

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure what their policy is these days but am sure there were some Americans there a few years ago.....
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thursday12



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah they like us yanks but be cool try again
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boundforsaudi



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's no secret that there is a strong prejudice against Americans right now in the Middle East. If you do find a job, you may wish you hadn't, especially if you wind up with an Arab as an immediate supervisor, on whom you will have to depend for a reference. You may wind up being the department's whipping boy.
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omanized



Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only anti-US bias is what you see on tv or what you may assume - I would challenge any American in Oman to come up with examples of anti-Americanism which affected their job or quality of life here.

Polyglot probably didn't hire you because native speakers are too expensive and they use more Indians and other arab nationals.

omanized
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007



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boundforsaudi wrote:
.. If you do find a job, you may wish you hadn't, especially if you wind up with an Arab as an immediate supervisor, on whom you will have to depend for a reference. You may wind up being the department's whipping boy.


Any Arab? Are you sure that Any Arab supervisor is against any American who want to work in Oman, or againts the politics of Uncle Bush in the ME?
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boundforsaudi



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please allow me to correct my post. The strong prejudice against Americans is not limited to the Middle East, nor to Arabs. It's pretty much worldwide, but most obvious in the Middle East, for obvious reasons. The reason most ESL instructors may not be aware of it is they are usually off-the-chart liberals who ingratiate themselves to the locals by never missing an opportunity to badmouth current American policy. But if you dare follow the patriotic policy of never speaking ill of your own country when you are outside of it, you will be noticed for your silence at the wrong moments, and you will pay the price. You will surely have hell to pay if you ever let it slip that you actually agree with anything Bush has done or tried to do. I'm not talking about in class here, I mean, for example, in private conversions with your colleagues. However, there will be occasions in or out of class when students bring up a topic to test you. They will, in fact, insult your nationality, or even praise Osama bin Laden and expect you to join in or at least say something sympathetic. As far as they are concerned, "no comment" is the wrong answer. As for the prejudice being strong among the Arabs, let me also add that you can't even be sure that you will be fairly treated if your deparment head is American, because he is likely to be the lackey of some Arab just a bit higher up.
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Aliskander



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done for speaking the truth Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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omanized



Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, yes, the truth.....I love the irony of a philosophy which believes that it is unpatriotic to criticize your country, if your country is America - read the Constitution, learn US history - criticizing the government and having the ability to challenge it is the BEDROCK of American freedom - how easily that has been forgotten in this age of hysteria and FOX news jingoism!

Anyway, to the topic at hand - are you in this field to travel and wave your flag? Why? Is it your business to do that? Is it your school's mandate? Will it affect your ability to develop a repore with your students in order to effectively instruct them in language skills?

Are you so sensitive or naive about the foreign policy of the US that you can be offended / surprised about student opinion and prejudice? Pity.......

Yes, it is true that these questions are asked - I have responded or 'no commented' many times - Hitler this, Jews that, Bush, Blair, bombs and it goes on...

No problem for me - apparantly, I might have some unusual skill to separate my professional life from my personal opinion and I may also have the uncanny ability to understand the cultural and socio-political climate in which I am living and earning a salary. What is wrong with you guys.....?

omanized
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veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boundforsaudi wrote:
You will surely have hell to pay if you ever let it slip that you actually agree with anything Bush has done or tried to do.

I've pondered long and hard and so far I can't come up with one thing that I agree with... I guess that makes me one of those dregs of society... a liberal... ie a person who cares about people and not the military industrial corporate interests that the rest of the world has rightly learned to hate.

VS
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