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[andrew_bowden83]

Does anybody know about the New Times placement service? They operate out of Shijiazhuang. I was impressed with the response I got, and they even sent contact info for former teachers unasked, and everything seems almost too good to be true! Maybe they really are a great service, but I can't help being a bit of a skeptic...

Has anyone worked with them, or known anybody that has? What's the word on N.T.?

Thanks a lot guys!

Andrew

[JadedMenhir]

Much of the debate on New Times on these boards makes much of old habits, ignoring the revamps New Times has undergone this year.

I was with them for 18 months, both getting a school through them in Shijiazhuang and then working for them directly. Thus, I would have no hesitation in recommending them most highly to anybody.

Their recruiter, Jacques, and the president, Mr. Dou, are personal friends of mine and I have witnessed them close many good partnerships between teachers and schools.

That being said, there can always be teething troubles with schools not always giving what they have offered. In such cases, New Times will have your back on any problems that may arise.

[tuvia]

avoid any and all recruiters, unless of course you enjoy a third party taking a percentage of your rightful salary. but then again, since i am not close, personal friends with any of the leeches, perhaps my advice isnt as useful as that of the previus poster.

[tuvia]

...really i did.

[kellen_and_carolyn]

Before we came to China we researched many recruiters on the net. Through others testimony and experiences we decided to put our faith in New Times. We were greeted at the airport in Beijing and taken to New Times to start looking for a job. Everyone was very friendly and helpful from the beginning of our journey, especially Jacques. We were put up in an apartment while we looked over a few job openings. Jacques was very supportive and helpful with our decision making. Although we had no problems with New Times we have had several problems with the school we were placed with. New Times has always been more then willing to help us solve our problems. It is great to know that we have Jacques and New Times backing us up in case any troubles arise. I don't know how we would have settled our problems without having New Times on our side. We are both very happy we made the decision to come to New Times. Jacques has helped make our experience an enjoyable one in China. We would highly recommend others to put their faith in New Times as well.

[movinaround]

[kellen_and_carolyn]

Fair enough. You can make a lot more money not working for a recruiter but that is a personal choice. No one comes to work in China for the money so for those who want to come here with peace of mind New Times is a great recruiter. We are going through a lot of crap with our school right now and I am very happy to have come here with a recruiter. I wouldn't even know where to start if I was having to settle these problems on my own.
So...recruiters aren't for everyone. If you want more money and freedom then don't come here with a recruiter. If you want peace of mind sign up with a good recruiter like New Times.

[Shan-Shan]

[NathanRahl]

What a bunch of horse hockey. You people sound like someone from the Manchurian Canidate or something.

I have heard too many bad things about new times to really care to use them, or any recruiter.

You say you feel more safe and secure working with them, why? Their the worst kind of recruiter. They don't just find you a job, get a one time commission, and thats it. They get a percentage of your salary week after week, month after month, for doing zippo.

If they were legite they would just get paid once, and thats it. Also, a good recruiter does not bring you here without finding you a job first.

Why not just go to Daves job board, thats how I have found all of my positons. Do your own homework.

When I first came her, I got ripped off, lied to, and basically decieved by a recruiter pretending to be a would be school. Went to an internt bar, in three days, poof, had another job, that was not a scam.

You don't need a recruiter, they just make you "think" you need one. Theres more jobs here then you can share a proverbial stick at, the type of recruiter your using is really using you, and is just a leech.

Some folks new to the game may choose to use one, ad if they do, make sure the person in question just gets a commission, and does not attach themselves to your paycheck and suck money out of it every month.

[JadedMenhir]

I wonder why recruiters are always lumped together in one big festering pile.
Nathan's right, a lot of them are only interested in the dollar and will not hesitate to screw teachers.

However, New Times does not take the salary from their teachers week after week, and they DO get paid a one-time flat fee from the school when the teacher originally goes. They get no further compensation for their teachers yet they still stand behind every teacher that came through them as Kellen and Carolyn stated. Within reason.

I know Jacques well and I worked for New Times for 2 years myself. We took our share of criticism and it is remarkable how easy it is for teachers to lash out at NT whenever anything goes wrong which is in no way NT's fault.

Kellen and Carolyn have it right. They have had problems with their school and they have not hesitated in using New Times' support to help them resolve this.

It is easy to get a job before you come to China. But to the poster who said that this was a completely foreign idea to him, although I understand the feeling, how many teachers do we know that have gone for jobs on their own and ended up getting ripped off? Easily as many as have been used by fake recruiters, if not more.

New Times is one of the few bastions of integrity remaining in the cut-throat ESL world in China.

[Worldly]

[movinaround]

[NathanRahl]

Jaded is either lying, or he is misinformed. No recruiter who is not being payed from your check is going to bring you here, set you up in an apartment, who is not getting a slice of the pie. I know because I have worked for ones who are. It's just not worth it for them.

A good recruitment fee is 1,500 yuan, it ain't worth it for new times to bring you here, and pay for your expenses, while you look for a job, not if they ain't getting a piece of the pie, duh.

Go sell your misinformation somewhere else pal, cause I don't think anyone is buying it, just doesn't make any sense.

[JacquesP]

[Worldly]