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jeffinflorida



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: F Visa Update Reply with quote

Several weeks ago i posted asking if anyone ever got a 24 month F visa.

Got my passport back to and they did not give me a 24 month F visa, only a 12 month multiple for $150. With a 90 day stay per entry.


I tried and the company I will work for also wrote a letter asking for the 24 F visa but I guess it's better than a 90 day visa.

So, 1 year multiple entry F visa is the best i could do for now...
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mjlpsu



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that seems par for the course.
I requested a 6 month multi last week with my business letter. I got dual entry.
Apparently there's a small note online about obtaining some vague form from "an authorizing department" on the mainland. (Unless of course you already have two dual entry F visas).
Note: these rules may not apply for citizens of countries other than US.
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KES



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the update.

I hear that these restrictions tend to apply mainly to those holding USA passports.

I hope others with very recent F Visa experiences will share.

Good luck.
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Malsol



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AussieGuyInChina



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect that Malsol's employment contract is for one term only.

Some PSBs will not issue Z visas / F.R.P.s for one-term contracts; they issue F visas and temporary F.R.P.s.

F visas issued in China by the PSB are superior to F visas issued in Hong Kong / elsewhere (as has been reported by Roger / Steppenwolf many times).

It is legal to work on an F visa issued in China by the PSB.

It is not legal to work on F visas issued in Hong Kong / elsewhere.

Best of luck to anyone who believes otherwis!
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Malsol



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bayden



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
F visas issued in China by the PSB are superior to F visas issued in Hong Kong / elsewhere (as has been reported by Roger / Steppenwolf many times).

It is legal to work on an F visa issued in China by the PSB.

It is not legal to work on F visas issued in Hong Kong / elsewhere.

It makes no difference where the F visa is issued, the conditions are the exactly the same.
An F visa is a business visa, for people doing business, not employed on a salary in China.
One condition of the F visa is that you ARE allowed to TRAIN on an F visa (that is, the holder of an F may train others).
Here's where semantics come into play. Are you an English teacher or an English trainer.
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Malsol



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cj750



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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An F visa is a business visa, for people doing business, not employed on a salary in China.


I know of a case where as a teacher was given an F by the PSB in Beijing (who was aware of the intention) and then later went to work for another school and had the F turned into a Z..all of which is not suppose to happen ...

there are no absolutes...

I know of Univ. in shenzen that issue letters so that teachers involved with overseas franchises can bounce across the border and get an F...lately the Americans that work for this franchise.... have had to do with 90 day visas..which require an in/out every thirty days..
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Leon Purvis



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sleazeball that I worked with last year said that he had a Z visa. When I looked at his passport shortly before he departed, I saw that he had a F visa.

I have a Z visa. neither he nor I were approached to pay taxes.
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cj750



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think China has the ability to track all income..
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AussieGuyInChina



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in an alternative reality where Malsol has a single-term contract and it does make a difference if an F visa has been issued within China.
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Malsol



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Leon Purvis



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valium! Valium!

Somebody get this thread back on track.

And somebody tell me why a PSB would issue an F visa to someone who has been hired to work at a public college?

Might it have something to do with qualifications or lack thereof? When I was hired by my school, the intention was to issue me an "L" which would be converted to a Z. I said no thanks. I want a Z. The FAO accommodated me.

Then I learned a few weeks ago that a coworker (also an American) was issued an F visa. He had been maintaining that he had a Z visa all year long, but when I looked at his passport, it bore an F visa. He also maintained that he had several degrees to his name though nothing about him indicated much education past a bar stool.

This situation intrigues me no end. Can someone shed some light upon it?

I was issued a Z visa, and my coworker was issued an F visa. Who would make the choice of which visa to issue, and what are the benefits of either to the school? This is a public college that I'm talking about.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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