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damianpieroni



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: UK teacher wishing to teach in canada Reply with quote

Hi folks,
I am currently teaching History in Herfordshire, but I am looking to emigrate to Canada, preferably Alberta/BC, and continue teaching History there. Any one with any advice on how to achieve this as quickly as possible, or any general advice, pitfalls etc.
Damian
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movinaround



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: Re: UK teacher wishing to teach in canada Reply with quote

damianpieroni wrote:
Hi folks,
I am currently teaching History in Herfordshire, but I am looking to emigrate to Canada, preferably Alberta/BC, and continue teaching History there. Any one with any advice on how to achieve this as quickly as possible, or any general advice, pitfalls etc.
Damian


It sounds like you have a PGCE (I will assume this). Alberta is dying for teachers, but you will probably have to put a year in in a smaller school, probably in a smaller town at first. I won't lie to you, the top three oversaturated fields for BEds are English, History and some other artsy one, so you are at a serious disadvantage there and would maybe have to sets your goals a bit lower. I don't know about BC, but you would probably be ok there too following the same conditions.

Now, why? I don't mean to pry, but I am seriously curious why Canada, and why those two provinces. Of course you don't have to answer Wink
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damianpieroni



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:02 pm    Post subject: UK teacher seeking work in Canada Reply with quote

Thanks for that! Your right about the PGCE. Why Canada? Always had a desire to move there...great quality of life etc. Now married with two kids, both under 3, seems like right time to try. Why Alberta/BC? I have neighbours who are previously from there and are moving back out, so I guess I'm better informed about those provinces, and they seem the most attractive.
I'm actually looking for a smaller town, somewhere like Red Deer, and wanting to avoid the big cities if possible.
Do you have any advice on how to go about applying for posts? I'm trawling various sites like ECN etc but the more help the better!
Cheers
Damian
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movinaround



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: UK teacher seeking work in Canada Reply with quote

damianpieroni wrote:
Thanks for that! Your right about the PGCE. Why Canada? Always had a desire to move there...great quality of life etc. Now married with two kids, both under 3, seems like right time to try. Why Alberta/BC? I have neighbours who are previously from there and are moving back out, so I guess I'm better informed about those provinces, and they seem the most attractive.
I'm actually looking for a smaller town, somewhere like Red Deer, and wanting to avoid the big cities if possible.
Do you have any advice on how to go about applying for posts? I'm trawling various sites like ECN etc but the more help the better!
Cheers
Damian


No, I will ask my sister though who might know, and try to get back to you. For now, here is a site with all the various certification boards for each province, as you will need this info sometime anyway...

http://resource.educationcanada.com/certification.html
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should definately look at the guidelines for teachers for each province that you are thinking of going to. In order to teach History in Ontario, you have to have at least four (?) semesters worth of courses in Canadian History. I don't think it would be much different in the other provinces as far as this requirement is concerned, because most of the history taught at the intermediate and senior divisions (grades 7- 12) is Canadian History.
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damianpieroni



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many Thanks for that. Look forward to hearing from you.
Damian
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movinaround



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
You should definately look at the guidelines for teachers for each province that you are thinking of going to. In order to teach History in Ontario, you have to have at least four (?) semesters worth of courses in Canadian History. I don't think it would be much different in the other provinces as far as this requirement is concerned, because most of the history taught at the intermediate and senior divisions (grades 7- 12) is Canadian History.


I am sure that is right (including the other provinces), but I would like to point out that rules such as these tend to be forgotten if you are really needed somewhere. I believe several districts in New York and practically every district in New Orleans at the moment aren't even worrying about teaching licenses Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aren't even worrying about teaching licenses
I knew this would get back to ELT somehow Wink
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True enough. But other than in Nunavut and possibly the other arctic territories, there is not a huge need for teachers, especially History or English teachers in Canada. It's not like the US, because becoming a teacher is one of the most sought after jobs in Canada- the teaching areas that are needed are French and sciences.

Oh, also, OP to teach at the intermediate/senior level (grades 7 - 12) you would need a second teachable, which is three courses in another discipline that is taught at the high school level (I took three courses in History after finishing my degree in order to fulfill this requirement, but then got turned down to B.Ed programmes, anyway).
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damianpieroni



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Im also qualified to teach English, but it sounds like that wont be much help! How are international applicants to be considered if they are required to already have experience of teaching Canadian History? I teach American History at GCSE level. Would that count? I would have thought that the only qualification you would need would be to be able to teach Hiistory in general. Surely you could quickly aquire general or specific knowledge of Canadian History once there. I mean, when you apply for a first teaching job in the Uk you obviously have no experience of teaching anything specific, but build it up as you go along. I've E-mailed Alberta Education and await a reply. Until then, any more advice "out there" welcome.
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newinSeoul



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

This website may help you with some extra information. There is a great need for teachers in Alberta, especially northern Alberta.

http://www.ctf-fce.ca/en/teaching/teaching.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

damianpieroni wrote:
Thanks. Im also qualified to teach English, but it sounds like that wont be much help! How are international applicants to be considered if they are required to already have experience of teaching Canadian History? I teach American History at GCSE level. Would that count? I would have thought that the only qualification you would need would be to be able to teach Hiistory in general. Surely you could quickly aquire general or specific knowledge of Canadian History once there. I mean, when you apply for a first teaching job in the Uk you obviously have no experience of teaching anything specific, but build it up as you go along. I've E-mailed Alberta Education and await a reply. Until then, any more advice "out there" welcome.


You don't need to have taught Canadian History. But you do need to have taken university courses in Canadian History- you could do them in Canada, but of course that means probably from September until June you would be in university taking classes (at international student rates, unless you had permanent residency in Canada) and so would have to wait a year before you could teach. American History is not the same as Canadian History. To not have taken courses in Canadian History would mean not having learned anything about the actual subject material that you were teaching and so you would know no more than what you got from reading the kids textbook.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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would mean not having learned anything about the actual subject material that you were teaching and so you would know no more than what you got from reading the kids textbook.
again we are back at ELT Wink
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damianpieroni



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excuse my ignorance guys...what is ELT?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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