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thomthom
Joined: 20 May 2011 Posts: 125
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:05 am Post subject: Best bars in Tokyo for mingling |
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This board is so slow I'm going to post a topic that's resolutely non-job-related.
I've lived in Tokyo for 18 months now and although I much prefer it to Seoul, I found it was considerably easier to socialise in Korea than Japan. It seems that Tokyo has plenty of great bars to go to if you're already with a group of friends, or if you want to have a chat with a genki bartender (or hostess), but for bars where you can mingle and rub shoulders easily, it's rather lacking. Of course there's Hub - but I'm talking about somewhere a little more interesting/cool/independent than that.
One recommendation I have: What the Dickens in Ebisu. A very nicely decorated British themed pub with free live music most nights of the week.
So what's your favourite bar? |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Don't really know.
I will go to Seoul next month. Tend to prefer it.
I want to go to the Aldgate sometime. It is in Shibuya. |
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RM1983
Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 360
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:05 am Post subject: Re: Best bars in Tokyo for mingling |
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thomthom wrote: |
This board is so slow I'm going to post a topic that's resolutely non-job-related.
I've lived in Tokyo for 18 months now and although I much prefer it to Seoul, I found it was considerably easier to socialise in Korea than Japan. It seems that Tokyo has plenty of great bars to go to if you're already with a group of friends, or if you want to have a chat with a genki bartender (or hostess), but for bars where you can mingle and rub shoulders easily, it's rather lacking. Of course there's Hub - but I'm talking about somewhere a little more interesting/cool/independent than that.
One recommendation I have: What the Dickens in Ebisu. A very nicely decorated British themed pub with free live music most nights of the week.
So what's your favourite bar? |
I second the Aldgate, and also a few more around Shibuya such as the 300 yen tachinomi nearby. Essentially you need somewhere without a lot of seats I think. Eg a while ago I went up to GoodBeer Faucets looking to have a few beers and bore some randoms but they sat me down first by the window totally alone until I bartered to sit y the bar, next to a couple on date.
So for this type of gig maybe craft bars are out. Maybe do your own tour of Shibuya. Roppongi as well you can easily meet people, although they tend to be transient, drunk or insane. The Irish one in Ueno is quite friendly, and the Black Dog in Ikebukuro is sometimes fun although more hit n miss and a bit depressing. Also worth a shout is the Footnik if youre into football
Also I have found it is not THAT hard to meet people, but you get a number and realise they live somewhere in Saitama so you probably wont see them again.
Perhaps a language group or something would make it easier? Meetup.com has some interesting groups too |
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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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haha. I had the exact same experience as RM1983 at Goodbeer Faucets in Shibuya a few months ago. Definitely not a place to meet people. Good beer, though on the expensive side. Best to go during happy hour.
Tokyo, in general, is not an easy place to meet people in bars. The Japanese almost always go out in groups and don't often mix with other groups once they're out. The occasional loners you see are often in no mood for conversation. It doesn't help that many bars and izakayas hold a max of 10 people.
Still, as someone wrote, it's not THAT hard.
I like Speakeasy at Otsuka (1 stop away from Ikebukuro). It's a French-run bar. There are loads of people there on Friday and Sat. night. Average age is usually under 30 and not much seating, so definitely mingle-friendly. |
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RM1983
Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 360
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Master Shake wrote: |
haha. I had the exact same experience as RM1983 at Goodbeer Faucets in Shibuya a few months ago. Definitely not a place to meet people. Good beer, though on the expensive side. Best to go during happy hour.
Tokyo, in general, is not an easy place to meet people in bars. The Japanese almost always go out in groups and don't often mix with other groups once they're out. The occasional loners you see are often in no mood for conversation. It doesn't help that many bars and izakayas hold a max of 10 people.
Still, as someone wrote, it's not THAT hard.
I like Speakeasy at Otsuka (1 stop away from Ikebukuro). It's a French-run bar. There are loads of people there on Friday and Sat. night. Average age is usually under 30 and not much seating, so definitely mingle-friendly. |
Yeah Ive heard that place is quite cool but did sound a little youthful for me lol. Actually I could list loadsa places where I had a good time and met people but not one solid spot bar the Shibuya ones or Golden Gai/Kabukicho and whatnot. Like there is a place in Nakano that I like but every other time we go it's nearly empty, or a few good pubs in Tachikawa where you might meet people but fancy a 40 minute trek out there on the off-chance?
Even the Hub or a Bar 82 are actually quite good ideas but youre taking a gamble again! |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:38 am Post subject: |
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The more Japanese you speak, the better it is.
I think in Seoul you can find more people who are willing to speak English, and frankly, are friendlier.
Maybe bars in Osaka or Kobe would be better. |
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Didah
Joined: 25 Jul 2009 Posts: 88 Location: Planet Tralfamador.... and so it goes
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Greetings,
I was in Tokyo a few months ago and I see What the Dickens in Ebisu is still going strong. It opened when I was living there years ago. They get a good crowd of expats and kolusaiteke -- those Japanese that are more internationally minded and speak better English. They also have live music. No, this is not a paid advertisement. Just something that came to mind. Of course, the Six Trees -- Roppongi is no place to hang out anymore. It used to be fun. Now it is just seems to be a mildly dangerous cesspool. Good luck in your search. |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:45 am Post subject: |
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Three years ago? No, that bar has been there for some time.
I hear good things about it.
It is not cheap, though.
Yes, some time ago I did stuff with a language group where you go to a cheap izakaya and talk to speak who want to speak English.
You can meet some smart people. Maybe doctors or people in business. |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:59 am Post subject: |
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Probably in the Shitamachi parts of town where the people are from Tokyo
and aren't stuck up.
Otherwise I guess I would say in Suginami.
Places on the Chuo Line like Koenji, Asagaya, Ogikubo, etc. |
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TTTT
Joined: 29 May 2011 Posts: 30
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Geronimo near roppongi crossing. Don't be afraid to hit the giant gong. |
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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:49 am Post subject: If you can't beat em... |
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They're all soulless clones and the only thing British about them is the bad food, but the fact is that Hubs are often the only places in an area where you can meet westerners. Usually there are pretty good drink specials too.
Hobgoblins are similar, but definitely a step up.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, Mother's Ruin and Mother in Shimokitazawa are really cool local watering holes with creatively decorated interiors. I don't know how good these bars are for mingling, though. |
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Inflames
Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 486
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:30 am Post subject: Re: If you can't beat em... |
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Master Shake wrote: |
They're all soulless clones and the only thing British about them is the bad food, but the fact is that Hubs are often the only places in an area where you can meet westerners. Usually there are pretty good drink specials too.
Hobgoblins are similar, but definitely a step up.
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I remember when I went to Tokyo years ago I asked someone for a good bar, and he recommended the Hub...
I've always avoided Hobgoblins since some guy got stabbed in one in Osaka years ago (that Hobgoblin closed and is now a Hub, which gets a ton more people than the Hobgoblin ever did). |
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RM1983
Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 360
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:35 am Post subject: Re: If you can't beat em... |
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Master Shake wrote: |
They're all soulless clones and the only thing British about them is the bad food, but the fact is that Hubs are often the only places in an area where you can meet westerners. Usually there are pretty good drink specials too.
Hobgoblins are similar, but definitely a step up.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, Mother's Ruin and Mother in Shimokitazawa are really cool local watering holes with creatively decorated interiors. I don't know how good these bars are for mingling, though. |
The Hub is alright I think. Cheap drinks and food, the music is not bad, and they show a lot of sport. About 50% of the time theyre entertaining in some way. Can tend to attract weirdoes.
Probably a fair recreation of most English pubs. |
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