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teachme27



Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 20
Location: NY

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: HELP a NEWBIE out! Reply with quote

Wink

Hello all! I am a newbie- hate the word but thats what I am- ha ha!
Im confused, TESOL is my new career and I dont know where to start. Im thinking about Japan,Korea, and China. Not sure which one. I would like good hours, good salary and accomidation ex. apartment etc. I have my BS in Communication and TESOL/TESL Certfication.. no experience teaching ESL. What do you reccomend? Also if not Asia where else fora newbie?
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jammish



Joined: 17 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

South Korea - long hours, but free acommodation and good pay. My friend who was in China is now over there and is getting the equvalent of 24,000 RMB per month, with a free flat. I've heard it's quite unfriendly but the dosh is good.

China - not so good pay but (there should be) good free acommodation and bills paid by the school, and long holidays. Easy working hours.

Japan - good pay but living costs very high and you have to pay for your accommodation etc.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Japan, read the FAQs in the Japan forum first.

How much do you consider "good pay"? Since you're a newbie, do you have to pay off student loans? How much are they per month?

Do you have any experience living/traveling abroad? Where?

Do you plan to make this a real career? Are you willing to get more education, specifically in TESOL/TEFL/TESL?
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teachme27



Joined: 28 Feb 2007
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Location: NY

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I want to get my MA eventually if I end up liking it! Yes I do have student loans close to $40,000 . As long as I can pay my bills abroad and at home and have extra money left over I will be content. I never lived abroad before. Been to the carribean and Bahamas.
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teachme27



Joined: 28 Feb 2007
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Location: NY

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Thank You ! Reply with quote

Thanks Jammish.. yea I was leaning towards South Korea but had more interest in Japan! Seems as if South Korea suit my needs and wants! Not sure of the salary I would need but would have to figure that out .. thanks again! Laughing
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wildchild



Joined: 14 Nov 2005
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Location: Puebla 2009 - 2010

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Required reading for newbs:

www.englishteacherx.com
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry, but $40,000 doesn't mean anything. How much PER MONTH do you have to pay off? In Japan, entry level salaries are 250,000 yen/month, and you'll likely spend half of that on basic necessities, so how you spend the remaining 125,000 yen/month (roughly US$1000 at the current exchange rate) is up to you.
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britishempire



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but..........you DONT pay your student loan UNLESS you earn 15 thousand pounds in the UK or abroad. So your unlikley to earn 15k abroad, so your never pay it back unless you earn 15k pound sterling abroad. All you do is keep them informed once a year about your wages and where you are basically living.

just like to inform you, not like your old days.
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britishempire



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That si the UK law on the student loans anyway unless you are a American. ect
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering he has quoted numbers in dollars (American, Canadian, Australian, etc., we don't know, but not pounds), I don't think he's bound by UK laws.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Posts: 2021
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

His..uh...like, 'Location' is marked NY, eh!

I may be a dumass Canuck, but I ***THINK*** it might mean New York. That's, like, in the States, eh!
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britishempire



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didnt look at his location just rushed in with UK law student loan wise. Hey his location might be NY but he could be on holiday haha.
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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She's American. Will have to pay on the loan.
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britishempire



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess us brits are lucky, student loan wise. Only if you earn 15K plus in UK or abroad.

So possible to never pay a penny, if we want to earn peanuts for the rest of our lives.
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mlomker



Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

britishempire wrote:
I guess us brits are lucky, student loan wise. Only if you earn 15K plus in UK or abroad.


Well, if you're reading this board then it goes without saying. Wink I didn't know that about the UK, though...that's nice.

In the US you can defer payments as long as you remain in college (I know someone that is working on their third Master's degree, taking only one course per semester). Some foreign students take the same approach to stay in the United States longer...many countries will give you a visa as long as you are a student.


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