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[wailing_imam]

Many people in Indonesia must be questioning the source of the relentless waves of tragedy and death which keep on hitting the nation. I find it absolutely unbelievable, as I sit here in Shanghai, click on the net and hear about death, accident, disaster, flooding, bird flu, schoolgirl beheadings (no bombs for a while though) etc.

Are the Javanese thinking that the old gods are behind this, or is it Soeharto's dukuns playing with fate. Do the Christians say this is just karma on the Islamic fundamentalists. Who do the Muslims blame this on?

[basiltherat]

[voltaire]

The things that go on in Indonesia represent to me clear evidence of the truth of the ancient proverb known to all peoples from Germans to Australian aborigines (for example): "What comes around, goes around".

It is nothing but the old incontrovertible law of karma. You needn't be a Hindu or Buddhist to realize the truth of this law. Heck! All you have to do is search Google News for Indonesia!

All these years of corruption at high levels and rampant scoff-lawing among all the others has led to the inevitable.

There's nothing mystical or magical about it. One example: you build housing complexes in water catchment areas because you as a zoning official can personally benefit from the bribes - flooding will occur in places it never has before.

And if public transport minibuses drive in the wrong lane traffic jams will result; not to mention horrible head-on collisions.

[sidjameson]

But the guy who picks up the bribe is not the one who suffers Voltaire. In fact he is probably sitting very pretty.

Are you suggesting that karma works within nations?

[guruengerish]

I was amazed to find that there are now twenty private airline companies operating in Indonesia. One can't help but wonder where they find all those highly trained aircraft technicians.

One expert has been quoted as saying that as far as maintenance goes, Indonesia has a cultural and a technical problem.

I'm curious as to what cultural habits he may have meant.

Sadly of course, I can imagine many potential tourists changing their holiday plans, having just plucked up courage to travel to Indonesia, now that things seem to have settled.

Latest news here is that the cockpit voice recorder does not have any evidence of strong winds at Yogya airport, nor do the control tower tapes.

The bit 'bleeped out' of course is c-o-c-k pit.

[voltaire]

[Chester]

the news footage of the plane crash survivors says a lot about the indonesian acceptance of tragedy and accidental death. people just walking away from a burning plane and going home, a bit shaken and stirred, but otherwise as if nothing unusual had happened at all. the blind acceptance of accidental death AKA death by neglegence or recklessness, i find very disturbing.

[voltaire]

Sorry, I forgot to conclude in my above post that while we cannot know the karmic consequences of much that occurs, we can often, in other cases, see them quite plainly, like in the case of undiscplined drivers causing traffic jams in Jakarta. These instances thus prove my point that there is indeed a law of karmic cause and effect, and one needn't call themselves a Buddhist or Hindu to see it.

[basiltherat]