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teachme27
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 20 Location: NY
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:58 pm Post subject: How does this sound? |
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Need help can anyone put this in Laman terms for me and I want your opinion if this sounds like a good deal or not! Also does anyone familiar with this area....Sanyoonoda-shi, Yamaguchi-ken. Japan
Our monthly salary is from Yen250,000 - 270,000 for a maximum 98 hours teaching schedule. Any hours taught over and above that figure are classed as overtime and remunerated at the rate of Yen2,500 per hour. Our teachers aren't usually asked to put in office time, but are only sometimes requested to attend a teacher's meeting that is occasionally held on Friday mornings.
BENDA additionally provides a contract completion bonus of Yen25,000 towards travel costs.
Teachers who are employed by us receive approximately two weeks paid vacation over Christmas and the New Year, plus two consecutive days off per week and their relevant Japanese National holidays. The duration of the winter vacation is dependant upon the school's teaching agenda.
Unpaid vacation is also taken into consideration during light workloads and the Summer months.
Incoming teachers usually take over the apartment of an outgoing teacher, therefore all "Japanese Key Money' expenses have already been taken care of and they are only asked to cover the relevant apartment's monthly rental charges, which usually amount to around Yen40,000 to Yen55,000 per month.
New teachers additionally have the opportunity to purchase furniture from an outgoing teacher and in this respect BENDA is willing to provide an interest free loan of up to Yen90,000 to facilitate the monetary transaction.
We also arrange a telephone line to all teachers' apartments and provides each teacher with a small city car for both business and pleasure. Each teacher being requested to pay the yearly tax/insurance for the said vehicle, coming to around Yen4,000 /Yen115,000 per year respectively.
We provides work related accident insurance for all employees
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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250,000 yen/month (roughly 100 hours) comes to 2500 yen/hour. Overtime, by labour law, is supposed to be as follows:
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Article 37. In the event that an employer extends
working hours or has a worker work on rest days pursuant
to the provisions of Article 33 or paragraph 1 of the
preceding Article, the employer shall pay increased wages
for work during such hours or on such days at a rate no
lower than the rate stipulated by cabinet order within the
range of no less than 25 percent and no more than 50
percent over the normal wage per working hour or working
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So, to offer you 2500 yen/hour OT pay is illegal for a 250,000 salary and the above number of hours. http://www.jil.go.jp/english/laborinfo/library/documents/llj_law1-rev.pdf
For 98 hours exactly, that's 2551 yen/hour, so you should get at least 3188 yen/hour for OT. Do the math for other situations.
Vacation time as you wrote it seems pretty normal on average. Same with rent, although I don't understand the deal with buying furniture from an exiting teacher. If he wants to sell what he bought, ok, but what if he moved into a place that already had stuff and didn't have to buy it? Is he going to try making a profit by selling you something like that? Strange. In other words, doesn't the apartment come furnished?
They provides[sic] accident insurance. Prsumably that is for the car. What about copayments into shakai hoken (health insurance plan, plus pension)? 100 hours/month / 4 weeks/month --> 25 hours of classroom time per week, which is less than what is required to offer such copayments, but is this how they see your working time, or do they see it as a 40-hour week (in which case they are obligated to make those copayments)? That is, are they calling this job full-time on paper, yet classifying it as part-time to avoid making such assistance? (A common loophole legality) |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:44 am Post subject: Re: How does this sound? |
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teachme27 wrote: |
Each teacher being requested to pay the yearly tax/insurance for the said vehicle, coming to around Yen4,000 /Yen115,000 per year respectively.
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That's one seriously over-priced insurance policy.
& wot glenski said for everything else. :) |
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seanmcginty
Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 203
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Glenski wrote: |
So, to offer you 2500 yen/hour OT pay is illegal for a 250,000 salary and the above number of hours.
For 98 hours exactly, that's 2551 yen/hour, so you should get at least 3188 yen/hour for OT. Do the math for other situations. |
Not quite. Article 37 which you quote incorporates by reference Article 33, which in turn allows an employer to extend working time beyond the limits set out in Art. 32 under certain circumstances. Article 32 limits the work week at 40 hours.
Therefore, Article 37 would only kick in when the employer requires you to work more than 40 hours per week, not if the employer required you to teach more than 98 hours per month. So there is nothing illegal about offering 2500 yen per hour for teaching hours above the 98 per month. |
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bearcat
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 367
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:47 am Post subject: Re: How does this sound? |
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teachme27 wrote: |
Need help can anyone put this in Laman terms for me and I want your opinion if this sounds like a good deal or not! Also does anyone familiar with this area....Sanyoonoda-shi, Yamaguchi-ken. Japan
Our monthly salary is from Yen250,000 - 270,000 for a maximum 98 hours teaching schedule. Any hours taught over and above that figure are classed as overtime and remunerated at the rate of Yen2,500 per hour. Our teachers aren't usually asked to put in office time, but are only sometimes requested to attend a teacher's meeting that is occasionally held on Friday mornings.
BENDA additionally provides a contract completion bonus of Yen25,000 towards travel costs.
Teachers who are employed by us receive approximately two weeks paid vacation over Christmas and the New Year, plus two consecutive days off per week and their relevant Japanese National holidays. The duration of the winter vacation is dependant upon the school's teaching agenda.
Unpaid vacation is also taken into consideration during light workloads and the Summer months.
Incoming teachers usually take over the apartment of an outgoing teacher, therefore all "Japanese Key Money' expenses have already been taken care of and they are only asked to cover the relevant apartment's monthly rental charges, which usually amount to around Yen40,000 to Yen55,000 per month.
New teachers additionally have the opportunity to purchase furniture from an outgoing teacher and in this respect BENDA is willing to provide an interest free loan of up to Yen90,000 to facilitate the monetary transaction.
We also arrange a telephone line to all teachers' apartments and provides each teacher with a small city car for both business and pleasure. Each teacher being requested to pay the yearly tax/insurance for the said vehicle, coming to around Yen4,000 /Yen115,000 per year respectively.
We provides work related accident insurance for all employees
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There's a lot of questionable things in this. you'll need to clarify with them as to the real meat of what they've said here.
1. 98 teaching hours with a requirement of "office hours". At first the 98 sounds good but with them giving you busy work otherwise, you're probably going to be getting exploited. You're just shy of 25 teaching hours a week, which is not too bad but....
2. Car is required for business. This means you've got split shifts in different locations during the day. You need to ask for a copy of previous shedules of the person you are replacing. Ask for for the whole year if you can as this will tell you more than I suspect you realize because....
3. They say that summer time is unpaid vacation time. Meaning, you may have a month or two of a reduced salary. How much and how long? This is their way of saving money of course. When other school's teachers are able to make 3 million yen a year average for their salary at 250,000 a month, then your's may be lower overall even if you're making 270,000 a month during the months that you have a "normal" schedule.
ALSO, they say the "light loads" are seperate from the summer vacation.... thus you will have more than just the summer instance of not getting a full month's salary. ---Red Flags
4. You need to ask also if you are reimbursed for gas/transportation. Most schools pay sub/bus costs and this might be their veiled way of avoiding paying you that if they "give" you this car.
5. Another thing, if you don't have a Japanese driver's license, then your international driver's license to use is only valid for one year from the day you step foot in Japan (this is a Japan thing not the Int DL). After this, you'll have to take and pass the tests for a J-DL. If you don't then you cant legally drive. Thus, this job may only have a one year run out of it for you and they may expect you to not stay longer as well. Something to consider.
6. Glenski's points on the insurance etc.
To me, it seems to be exploitive in a few respects just from this initial information. Inquire further and judge just what you would be walking into. |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:25 am Post subject: |
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If all else fails, do a search of BENDA and all your questions will be answered. They have history. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
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seanmcginty,
Quite probably true. I would wonder just how many hours TOTAL the employer expects the teacher to work? Just the 98 in the classroom or more for prep time and other things, perhaps making a total of 40 per week? Would be telling.
Bearcat wrote:
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5. Another thing, if you don't have a Japanese driver's license, then your international driver's license to use is only valid for one year from the day you step foot in Japan (this is a Japan thing not the Int DL). After this, you'll have to take and pass the tests for a J-DL. If you don't then you can legally drive. |
I presume that red word was a typo and should read "can't". |
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teachme27
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 20 Location: NY
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: Thank You ! |
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Yes, a lot of things do sound suspicious I will email them, thanks everyone. |
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