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ATTICUS188
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 Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: WILL SOMEONE HELP ME. |
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| I am planning to get my TEFL cretification on-line very soon and I have a few concerns about my chances of finding work thereafter. I am without a degree and I am concerned that I will not be able to find work without one. What are the best places to find work without a Bachelors degree? I am trying to weigh my options and I am looking for a little guidance. Any tips or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. |
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mlomker
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: WILL SOMEONE HELP ME. |
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This is a really frequent question...have you read through this board and the newbie board?
The short answer is that China, outside of the major cities, is where you will find the most jobs that are available to you. Vietnam also provides some legal options but the competition (and pay) is greater.
FYI, the online certs are generally considered worthless. If you're going to do a TEFL then get a CELTA or another 100+ hour certificate that will help compensate for your lack of a degree. |
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ATTICUS188
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks!!!! A degree is not required for a work permit in China? |
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jonniboy
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| You can work in virtually all of Europe without a degree but would need EU citizenship to do so. Agree about the Online certs - either save up and get the proper cert or else don't bother. |
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mlomker
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| A degree is not required for a work permit in China? |
It is legally required but China is China--there is a lot more demand for English teachers than supply. I suggested more rural areas because not a lot of foreigners are willing to work there so they don't enforce the rules as strictly. You may end up working on a business visa (not legal) but some schools have enough local pull to get you a genuine work visa (they may very well just print you a 'degree' on their laser printer).
In Vietnam you can legally work on 3-month contracts using a business visa. I think you'd be better off in China since the competition is stiffer in Vietnam...you'll be competing with qualified teachers and most of the work is hourly.
Another point--without complete qualifications you are unlikely to obtain a job from abroad...only the most disreputable recruiters will talk to you. I'd strongly advise flying to your preferred location on a tourist (or business if you can get one) visa and knocking on doors. The employers that take teachers low on qualifications are ones you'll want to keep an eye on and check things out for yourself.  |
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movinaround
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| Yes, I am not against online certs or even degrees, but for ESL/EFL, the online certs have very little value outside of personal development (which is good, but not as good as the face to face ones). |
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