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Indonesia vs. Thailand

 
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renzobenzo1



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:25 am    Post subject: Indonesia vs. Thailand Reply with quote

Which is better overall?
Where is more enjoyable to teach children at?
Which countries' schools offer more support to teachers?
Where are the people friendlier?
Can I get a gf in Indonesia?

Note: I know this is very broad and locations and experiences will vary. I would like to try both countries at some stage but am weighing up which one might be better to teach at first.
I have 1 years experience in Korea and no teaching certificate. Just a double degree. I am 25 from New Zealand.
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guruengerish



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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject: GF Reply with quote

If/when you find a girlfriend in Indonesia, and it's not difficult, just remember that if things get serious, and she's Muslim, then be prepared to share that faith with her if you marry.

There are few who would be allowed by their family to marry a non-Muslim.

Personally, I found it a pain to have to vet every place we wanted to eat at, to ensure that it was 'halal'. Indonesian food is nice, but I do like a nice steak or Chinese from time to time!

There are also plenty of sweet Indo-Chinese girls, of Catholic faith.

I'm no expert in these matters and I'd be pleased to see some contructive comments.
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MrMrLuckyKhan



Joined: 08 Feb 2008
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Location: Kingdom of Cambodia

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Indonesia vs. Thailand Reply with quote

renzobenzo1 wrote:
Which is better overall?
Where is more enjoyable to teach children at?
Which countries' schools offer more support to teachers?
Where are the people friendlier?
Can I get a gf in Indonesia?


Ive traveled within both for many months, so I can give you my personal opinion on both...
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Which is better overall?


I LOVE them both, but like Indonesia better for many reasons. First, I feel that Thailand's attitude is, "we hate you foreigners, but the ONLY reason we tolerate you at all is because you bring so much of you money here." That is not the feeling I get from the INDIVIDUALS, but from their government, based on all of their regulations about foreigners.

Bahasa Indonesia is easier for me to speak/understand/read/write than Thai. So when it comes to staying somewhere an extended amount of time and interacting with the locals, Indonesia is MUCH easier. I could probably say about 5 words in Thai, and half the time they couldn't understand what I was trying to say anyways, lol. I've learned many many more words in Bahasa and can even put together a few elementary sentences, lol.

I like feeling 'off the beaten path' and I feel a lot more like that anywhere in Indo than I do in Thailand.

Indonesia has over 15,000 islands(which means if I were to visit a new island every day for the next 40 years, I still wouldn't have time to visit them all, lol)!!! Thailand does not, lol.

But, as I said, i am in love with both countries. I liked some of the beaches I visited in Thailand more than some of the ones I have visited in Indonesia. I like the real spicy Thai food a little bit more than some of the local indo dishes.


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Where are the people friendlier?


Man, that is a tough one!!! The people at both seem very friendly!!! Thailand is known as, "The Land of Smiles." I have gotten many free rides/meals from both locals, so that one is tough.

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Can I get a gf in Indonesia?


HaHa, you might have 2 girlfriends before you even step foot out of the airport!!!! I have no idea what the male/female ratio is in Indonesia, but I feel like there are about 10 girls for every guy I see. But maybe its just me.





Either way, I really dont think you could go wrong with living/working in either country.... Cool
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rayman



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have no idea what the male/female ratio is in Indonesia, but I feel like there are about 10 girls for every guy I see.


I think that's known as selective vision, lol. But i see your point.

The smaller language barrier in Indonesia does make the people and culture more accessible. I think Indonesians are also more willing to accept you into their family and culture, provided you make some effort. This makes finding a legitimate girlfriend or wife an infinitely easier task than in Thailand.

All my opinion.
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Extraordinary Rendition



Joined: 09 Feb 2008
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Location: third stone from the Sun

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not trying to hijack the thread, but I'm curious, in Thailand the (teacher) salary to cost-of-living ratio is not very favorable; how does that of Indonesia compare? I've read and been told that the ratio is far better in Indonesia, but is that the experience of those of you who know both countries? Thanks for any info you can provide!
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sherlock



Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pay is pretty poor in both countries, certainly won't be able to save much.

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Bahasa Indonesia is easier for me to speak/understand/read/write than Thai. So when it comes to staying somewhere an extended amount of time and interacting with the locals, Indonesia is MUCH easier. I could probably say about 5 words in Thai, and half the time they couldn't understand what I was trying to say anyways, lol. I've learned many many more words in Bahasa and can even put together a few elementary sentences, lol.

I like feeling 'off the beaten path' and I feel a lot more like that anywhere in Indo than I do in Thailand.

Indonesia has over 15,000 islands(which means if I were to visit a new island every day for the next 40 years, I still wouldn't have time to visit them all, lol)!!! Thailand does not, lol.


MrLuckyKhan. what's with all the lols. Either you think your post was very funny or you have a nervous twitch when writing.


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laughing_magpie06



Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting question about girlfriends. In my time here I have had two serious relationships, one with a Javanese Muslim woman and now with my current wife, who is Chinese (Catholic).
It is true that if someone has relations with a muslim they will be expected to convert at some point but don't take that to mean they are strict, disciplined and of good morals. My ex-gf was my worst ever and I would have done no worse with a Jaksa hooker with multiple STD's.
My wife on the other hand has been loyal and honest throughout and we now have a 1 year old son. Also there was no family pressures to convert to anything.
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MrMrLuckyKhan



Joined: 08 Feb 2008
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Location: Kingdom of Cambodia

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sherlock wrote:

MrLuckyKhan. what's with all the lols. Either you think your post was very funny or you have a nervous twitch when writing.


Sorry, I didn't get the MEMO about the number of "lols" we were allowed use in post before it starts to annoy sherlock, could you forward it to me, LoL!?!?!? JK! LoL is probably my most overused phrase when I'm typing on the net. Sorry man, get used to it...
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carabao



Joined: 03 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indo is better hands down.
For me, the biggest advantage is having nicer colleagues than one is likely to find in most SEA.
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reddrake



Joined: 04 Apr 2008
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Location: Riyadh

PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: Indonesia vs. Thailand Reply with quote

renzobenzo1 wrote:
Can I get a gf in Indonesia?


gF???

You can get 5 in the same time if you can manage the time (and sometime they don even mind)......... Laughing

Well.....actually I'm a bit exaggerating but it is quite easy to find a gf. And i agree with everyone, if you don really want to convert to islam, getting a indo chinese gf would be better.
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