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My wish is to go to Japan. Any suggestions?
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Precise



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: My wish is to go to Japan. Any suggestions? Reply with quote

Should I teach English in Japan?

Bio: 23 year old Caucasian male. Bachelor's degree in International Management (Business Curriculum) from an accredited university in the USA. Fluent English speaker and writer.

Pros: Open minded, traveled all over Europe, has many Asian (best) friends, finds Japanese language easy to pick up, proficient in using chopsticks, loves Japanese culture, loves kids, loves studying history, enjoys Eastern philosophies (Buddhism, Taoism).

Cons: No real ESL teaching experience, Lots of student loans, car payment, likes to go out on the town and party/drink etc., has a devoted girlfriend in the US that wants to marry him in the next 2-3 years who will miss him (a lot), dislikes xenophobia.

Should I pursue a teaching carreer in Japan?


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JU!



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe but the girlfriend bit may pose a problem. If you want to just go for it and start applying, it's up to you in the end.
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Precise



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JU! wrote:
Maybe but the girlfriend bit may pose a problem. If you want to just go for it and start applying, it's up to you in the end.


Why do you think the GF bit will pose a problem?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't feel comfortable answering someone's request for "should I?" People should make up their own minds. If you had asked whether you could get a job with no qualifications, the answer would have been yes. If you had asked if you could save money here to pay off that debt, I would have said maybe (depends on your monthly payments). I would also have said be smart and stop going out on the town and partying.

As far as your girlfriend goes, there's always something like Skype with a web cam, so that you can each make free calls and see each other (and your surroundings). Much better way of staying in touch, I think. Long distance relationships even within your own country are often straining. Distance to Japan is greater, so contacting each other will involve more careful timing because of the time difference, and you can't as easily just show up on each other's doorstep for an occasional visit. Your gf may also have images of gorgeous, fawning Japanese women falling at your feet, which could also lead to more strain.

Enjoying Asian philosophy and being proficient in chopsticks won't land you a job, nor are either of those things necessary for survival here.

Just how far does your dislike of xenophobia go? You may be stared at a lot by the locals, discriminated against in various situations, and come to the realization that certain government policies just aren't all that equitable for foreigners, so having a fairly thick skin would diminish a lot of negative reaction to these.

What's your time frame for starting work here? Plan on at least 2-4 months (mostly due to visa processing time).

Can you come here to look for work, or are you limited to whatever recruiters come to your country?

And, just how much do you have to pay off each month?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
I really don't feel comfortable answering someone's request for "should I?" People should make up their own minds. If you had asked whether you could get a job with no qualifications, the answer would have been yes. If you had asked if you could save money here to pay off that debt, I would have said maybe (depends on your monthly payments). I would also have said be smart and stop going out on the town and partying.

As far as your girlfriend goes, there's always something like Skype with a web cam, so that you can each make free calls and see each other (and your surroundings). Much better way of staying in touch, I think. Long distance relationships even within your own country are often straining. Distance to Japan is greater, so contacting each other will involve more careful timing because of the time difference, and you can't as easily just show up on each other's doorstep for an occasional visit. Your gf may also have images of gorgeous, fawning Japanese women falling at your feet, which could also lead to more strain.

Enjoying Asian philosophy and being proficient in chopsticks won't land you a job, nor are either of those things necessary for survival here.

Just how far does your dislike of xenophobia go? You may be stared at a lot by the locals, discriminated against in various situations, and come to the realization that certain government policies just aren't all that equitable for foreigners, so having a fairly thick skin would diminish a lot of negative reaction to these.

What's your time frame for starting work here? Plan on at least 2-4 months (mostly due to visa processing time).

Can you come here to look for work, or are you limited to whatever recruiters come to your country?

And, just how much do you have to pay off each month?


- I am planning on coming to Japan as soon as I get sponsored for a visa. I don't think it's wise to go there without a sponsor because I dread visa runs.
- My time frame is whenever just as long as it gives me enough time to prepare (like a month).

- My student loans, car payment, and insurance amount to about 600 USD a month. So, on a 250,000 y/mo salary, can I still make it (aka. have decent fun and still be able to save?).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it just me, or do others also notice more and more "someone please make my decisions for me" posts?
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Precise



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shuize wrote:
Is it just me, or do others also notice more and more "someone please make my decisions for me" posts?


I notice, which is why I'm posting. What's your input on the matter at hand?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Precise wrote:
I notice, which is why I'm posting. What's your input on the matter at hand?

Anyone who has to rely on others to make his decisions for him should probably stay home with mommy and daddy.
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MrCAPiTUL



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shuize, I dont think there is anything wrong with second guessing a move 1/2 way around the world and looking for input. Ultimately, OP will make up his own mind, for certain. Cut some slack - no harm no foul.

OP - About the GF. . . not to be a *beep* or anything, but more than likely you can kiss that good bye if you go to Japan. Just being honest. The average person has a hard enough time making a local relationship blossom into something fruitful, and an even harder time making that fruit last a lifetime. Times that by 1000!

I don't know you or your circumstance, so I can't say for certain whether or not you two will make it. What I AM saying, though, is that the odds are against you. People have needs. You go to Japan, then (again, for the average people) you are most likely facing a situation where your girl starts to feel abandoned - oh, he chose Japan over me - and begins to look elsewhere. And equally as much, you will be feeling isolated and be looking for comfort. Along comes some lady who finds you attractive and wants to have relations. Again. . you are lonely. . you are half way around the world. . you are backed up. . chances are you may take the opportunity (again, if you are of average stock like most people).

Having all that said, sometimes a person has to fulfill his/her personal destiny before they can progress forward. If you truly have the passion and feel this is something that you must do or else face regret the rest of your life, then maybe you should do it. It will most likely be a terrific experience. I see more people than not who have a good experience in Japan.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Precise wrote:


- My student loans, car payment, and insurance amount to about 600 USD a month. So, on a 250,000 y/mo salary, can I still make it (aka. have decent fun and still be able to save?).


Sell you car - you won't need insurance for the year your in Japan, so don't factor it in. And it won't make sense to have you car sitting there for a year - or sell it to a friend and buy it back from him when you get back.

So all you have to worry about is student loans.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neongene wrote:
Precise wrote:


- My student loans, car payment, and insurance amount to about 600 USD a month. So, on a 250,000 y/mo salary, can I still make it (aka. have decent fun and still be able to save?).


Sell you car - you won't need insurance for the year your in Japan, so don't factor it in. And it won't make sense to have you car sitting there for a year - or sell it to a friend and buy it back from him when you get back.

So all you have to worry about is student loans.


I want to sell my student loans but nobody wants to buy them off of me Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shuize wrote:
Precise wrote:
I notice, which is why I'm posting. What's your input on the matter at hand?

Anyone who has to rely on others to make his decisions for him should probably stay home with mommy and daddy.


I can tell you have many friends.[/sarcasm]
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject: Re: My wish is to go to Japan. Any suggestions? Reply with quote

Precise wrote:
Should I teach English in Japan?

Bio: 23 year old Caucasian male. Bachelor's degree in International Management (Business Curriculum) from an accredited university in the USA. Fluent English speaker and writer.

Pros: Open minded, traveled all over Europe, has many Asian (best) friends, finds Japanese language easy to pick up, proficient in using chopsticks, loves Japanese culture, loves kids, loves studying history, enjoys Eastern philosophies (Buddhism, Taoism).

Cons: No real ESL teaching experience, Lots of student loans, car payment, likes to go out on the town and party/drink etc., has a devoted girlfriend in the US that wants to marry him in the next 2-3 years who will miss him (a lot), dislikes xenophobia.


Translation:

Bio: regular qualifications, nothing special, similar to everyone else.

Pros: everything you mentioned in nominal and the fact you would mention that you're, "proficient in using chopsticks" is just plain silly.

Cons: you have lots of baggage and ties in your home country, which would make coming to Japan a big personal risk

Precise wrote:
Should I pursue a teaching carreer in Japan?


Pursuing a teaching "carreer" is too strong a word, given what you've wrote and your spelling, since you've also stated that you're a "fluent English speaker and writer."

What you would be looking at is time away from home, while working a regular eikaiwa job, working from 12pm to 9pm, having time away from home, to save a little money and reevaluate the life back in the America that you would be escaping from.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP just wanted to sound impressive, I think, listing all those vital credentials like chopstick ability and the fact he enjoys Taoism.

But in any case, it really is up to the individual to decide whether any move or job is for them. Will it give you the means to achieve what you want to while in Japan? Are you suited to the job at hand?

Everyone would have a different reason and answer for that, I'm sure.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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- I am planning on coming to Japan as soon as I get sponsored for a visa. I don't think it's wise to go there without a sponsor because I dread visa runs.
You don't have to make a visa run anymore. Can't recall the last time I heard of someone doing that (maybe 3 years ago, or more?).

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- My time frame is whenever just as long as it gives me enough time to prepare (like a month).
Good for you to be able to take off so quickly. But as I wrote, visa processing time will slow you down. Don't rush to get here. Some unscrupulous employers are out to scam people that way.

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- My student loans, car payment, and insurance amount to about 600 USD a month. So, on a 250,000 y/mo salary, can I still make it (aka. have decent fun and still be able to save?).
Figure on average that you will spend half of that 250K on basic necessities. Spend the $600 for your loans, and you will have roughly 60,000 yen left over each month for everything else. Yes, doable. I strongly suggest that you pay the loans as soon as you get your salary (direct deposit is the usual route here), so you don't have money to spend beyond what you need back home.

I also agree that dumping the car is the best route. You could keep it in storage, and depending on your insurance company's various policies, you could get a nicely reduced price, but do you really want to come back to the same car after 3-5 years? Putting it up on blocks, covering it, and draining the oil is probably the safest route to maintaining it, otherwise you probably should really have someone around to turn the engine over once in a while. Think of how much money you'd save (essentially the cost of student loans maybe?) if you didn't have to pay for insurance and storage each year...

As for your GF, family, and any friends, maintaining a constant lifeline is essential. They will reply almost immediately at first, but in a few months the thrill is gone, and as much as they will miss you, you will be out of sight, out of mind, so bear that in mind when (not if) replies take longer and longer to get to you. But, that lifeline is vital because things change back home, and you don't have a chance to be a part of them. Plus, the Skype face to face option is such a huge difference from a faceless telephone call. Trust me on this one!
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