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markholmes



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: International Schools? Reply with quote

I have not been able to get the search function to work for weeks, so apologies if this question has come up in the past.

Ok, I taught in Japan for 2 years, Taiwan for two as an ESL teacher (no Celta TESOL type thing).

I have been living in Canada for four years running my own business, but I'm starting to get itchy feet. I don't want to move back to Asia as an ESL teacher, so I'm thinking about going back to school to do my teaching certificate in geography and or social sciences.

I'm fromn the UK, so I want to be qualified so I can work in Canada (BC), the UK and international schools.

My questions are;

!) Is there much call for geography teachers (or is it mostly physics, math and english)? I notice there seems to be a lot of elementary / primary school positions.

2) Are there any good international school teacher forums like Dave's?

3) How many years experience do they usually require post certification?

4) Does ESL experience count?

5) I have a wife and child (wife was an ESL teacher also, but isn't really interested in teaching). How are international schools about bringing family and how about schooling for my daughter?

6) By the time I get qualified I will be 40. Does that matter so much in international schools?

Thanks in advance
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The_Hanged_Man



Joined: 10 Oct 2004
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Location: Tbilisi, Georgia

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:43 am    Post subject: Re: International Schools? Reply with quote

Ok, I'm mainly familiar with the American system, but I am currently employed at an international school so I can help you a bit.

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1) Is there much call for geography teachers (or is it mostly physics, math and english)? I notice there seems to be a lot of elementary / primary school positions.


The high demand positions tend to be secondary math, physics, and specialty positions (librarian, music, etc.). Secondary social studies, English, and elementary positions are more competitive. Yes, there are lots of elementary positions posted, but there are relatively more applicants for these jobs too. I know a lot of geography/social studies teachers also coach to make themselves more competitive.

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2) Are there any good international school teacher forums like Dave's?

Try: http://www.tes.co.uk/section/staffroom/list_threads.aspx?path=/teaching%20overseas/&threadPage=1

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3) How many years experience do they usually require post certification?

Two is the standard requirement. Some top notch schools require five years, but in a pinch a school will hire someone with less.

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4) Does ESL experience count?

Not really. During my 8 interviews at a recruiting fair last year not one had any questions concerning my ESL experience in Japan. If you had professional qualifications (Masters degree) that would help, but most international schools couldn't care less about entry level ESL work. It may be marginally helpful at a school with a high ESL population (where there may be an ESL department), but most schools look for certification and experience in your area of instruction.

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5) I have a wife and child (wife was an ESL teacher also, but isn't really interested in teaching). How are international schools about bringing family and how about schooling for my daughter?

The rule of thumb is one non-teaching dependent per teacher. You would have two, which makes you a bit less competitive. Not a deal breaker, but given a choice a school would choose a teaching couple or a single with no children above you. It all has to do with cutting costs, and it isn't fair, but that's how it works.

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6) By the time I get qualified I will be 40. Does that matter so much in international schools?

Not at all. The real age cutoff starts at 60, as some countries won't issue work visas past that age.


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sultansofping



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: Re: International Schools? Reply with quote

markholmes wrote:
IMy questions are;

!) Is there much call for geography teachers (or is it mostly physics, math and english)? I notice there seems to be a lot of elementary / primary school positions.

2) Are there any good international school teacher forums like Dave's?

3) How many years experience do they usually require post certification?

4) Does ESL experience count?

5) I have a wife and child (wife was an ESL teacher also, but isn't really interested in teaching). How are international schools about bringing family and how about schooling for my daughter?

6) By the time I get qualified I will be 40. Does that matter so much in international schools?

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well never mind what others say....of course your efl.esl experience counts.....why the hell wouldnt it, ......its teaching isnt?
i am currently doing my PGCE, already got a job in london lined up , and was offered a good job in china in an international school as well, .and you know what...my EFL exp definitely helped

your age might matter to some schools

and yes you can get humanitie posts, but they are a bit harder to come by

cheers
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