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alilight



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: HELP!!!! -TEFL practicum Reply with quote

Hi � I am planning coming to Vietnam for a sabbatical to teach- I am looking for a change of pace for a few years form my boring life here in New England. I have a question about my credentials. I have been an HS English teacher for 7 years and have a Maters degree in Education and a Master in English literature. Additionally, I spent 2 months in Chengdu, China teaching as well as 2 years as a tutor for ESL (English as a Second Language) teacher for students preparing for state exams. In short, I am planning on taking a TEFL class but I really want to do a 40 hour class that does not have a practicum. It seems so redundant and simplistic after all to for my years of teaching and graduate work to do a practicum. Is a practicum all necessary for some one in my situation?

Thanks a ton for you input�

Ali
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ChuckECheese



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Re: HELP!!!! -TEFL practicum Reply with quote

alilight wrote:
Hi � I am planning coming to Vietnam for a sabbatical to teach- I am looking for a change of pace for a few years form my boring life here in New England. I have a question about my credentials. I have been an HS English teacher for 7 years and have a Maters degree in Education and a Master in English literature. Additionally, I spent 2 months in Chengdu, China teaching as well as 2 years as a tutor for ESL (English as a Second Language) teacher for students preparing for state exams. In short, I am planning on taking a TEFL class but I really want to do a 40 hour class that does not have a practicum. It seems so redundant and simplistic after all to for my years of teaching and graduate work to do a practicum. Is a practicum all necessary for some one in my situation?

Thanks a ton for you input�

Ali


Are you kidding me? With your credential and experience, you don't need any TEFL classes. Just go and flash your Master in Eng. Lit. Degree and resume.

Good luck.
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alilight



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea- but my friend who lives in HCMC says I have to have TEFL cert- no exceptions- she knows my cred.
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ChuckECheese



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alilight wrote:
yea- but my friend who lives in HCMC says I have to have TEFL cert- no exceptions- she knows my cred.


If you have education degree (in your case you have masters in education), that'll trump everything.
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slug93



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:53 am    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

DONT EVEN BOTHER with ENGLISH SCHOOLS! with your qualification, GO DIRECTLY to job fairs in your country and get a PLUM job at a international school in VN(or whatever country you want to teach in). THose jobs pay ALOT MORE(3 times) what english teacher can make PLUS BENEFIT. GOOD LUCK!
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mlomker



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alilight wrote:
yea- but my friend who lives in HCMC says I have to have TEFL cert- no exceptions- she knows my cred.


That might be the policy of the school that she teaches in but it isn't a requirement for a work visa (you only need a bachelors degree).

I agree that you should look at international high schools. The minimum qualifications are being a certified teacher with two years of full-time experience (which you greatly exceed). You will get to teach literature and standard English classes rather than just ESL.

http://www.shambles.net/index.htm
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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mlomker wrote:
alilight wrote:
yea- but my friend who lives in HCMC says I have to have TEFL cert- no exceptions- she knows my cred.


That might be the policy of the school that she teaches in but it isn't a requirement for a work visa (you only need a bachelors degree).

I agree that you should look at international high schools. The minimum qualifications are being a certified teacher with two years of full-time experience (which you greatly exceed). You will get to teach literature and standard English classes rather than just ESL.

http://www.shambles.net/index.htm


Unfortunately it seems to be a widely held policy that teachers require a CELTA or equivalent to work in ESL positions. All the major international schools, who all teach CELTA courses incidentally, do so in HCMC, and that leaves a lot of experienced and well educated people excluded.
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sethness



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Location: Hiroshima, Japan

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your credentials are alreadyoutstanding. I'd be agog if a school requires a TEFL on top of that.

Also, consider doing a CELTA instead of a TEFL, if you MUST do some kind of ESL certification program. THat's because TEFL program quality is not standardized, therefore quality can very tremendously. There's even at least one TEFL group (based in America) that will give you the course OVER THE INTERNET with zero in-person interaction.

CELTA, on the other hand, is an actual post-grad certificate program, with a fixed form...therefore it carries greater weight in academic and professional environments.
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