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elliot_spencer
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 495
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:53 am Post subject: First job in Istanbul |
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hello, I am interested in coming to Istanbul,
Most jobs I have applied for pay 1500 - 2000 Turkish Lira,
Is this enough to survive? |
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:04 am Post subject: |
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It is enough to survive-that is all. Bear in mind most jobs were paying at least that 10-12 years ago. |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:07 am Post subject: |
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thrifty wrote: |
It is enough to survive-that is all. Bear in mind most jobs were paying at least that 10-12 years ago. |
But only if accom. is provided. |
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Which mill provides free accomodation anymore? Back in the nineties it was part of the deal. I see the crime are now offering free accomodation for the first three months. I suppose that they have worked out that you cannot survive on their hourly pay and pay for accomodation. Fit the turnstiles as they leave every three months. |
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elliot_spencer
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 495
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Hey, thanks, can I ask, if it does no include accomodation? Also, what are the chances of getting a better salary after experience? IS it common for re-signing teachers to have an increase? Are there summer camps etc? If one decided to settle in Turkey, what are the chaces of saving for retirement and also maybe buying a small place? |
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justme

Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 1944 Location: Istanbul
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:36 am Post subject: |
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If you marry someone with money, or have a really good job that isn't teaching, your chances of saving for retirement and buying a small place are quite good.
(Sorry, thrifty. Beat you to it.) |
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Baba Alex

Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 2411
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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elliot_spencer wrote: |
Hey, thanks, can I ask, if it does no include accomodation? Also, what are the chances of getting a better salary after experience? IS it common for re-signing teachers to have an increase? Are there summer camps etc? If one decided to settle in Turkey, what are the chaces of saving for retirement and also maybe buying a small place? |
There's no point in saving for retirement as we'll all be dead soon. |
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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justme wrote: |
If you marry someone with money, or have a really good job that isn't teaching
(Sorry, thrifty. Beat you to it.) |
You leave Baba Alex alone. |
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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elliot_spencer wrote: |
Hey, thanks, can I ask, if it does no include accomodation? Also, what are the chances of getting a better salary after experience? IS it common for re-signing teachers to have an increase? Are there summer camps etc? If one decided to settle in Turkey, what are the chaces of saving for retirement and also maybe buying a small place? |
Language mills may offer a tiny increase but the chances of you surviving the first year and wanting to work again at the same place are not 100%
There are summer camps that pay pocket money only. But as you will have rent and bills to pay you are unlikely to be able to work for pocket money.
I think it is way to early to be thinking about living here for ever before you have done a few years. |
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TeachEnglish
Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 239
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:06 am Post subject: |
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If you have good credentials and get to know the place, chances are you can find better paying teaching jobs. As far as saving for retirement, buying a place, you will have to work your butt off teaching private lessons and even that is not steady.. Don't come to Turkey thinking you will live on easy street and make a lot of money unless you are very ambitious.. If you are very ambitious, you can do well. The cost of living here is quite high. Good luck |
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:18 am Post subject: |
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TeachEnglish wrote: |
unless you are very ambitious.. If you are very ambitious, you can do well. |
If you were ambitious you would not be TEFLing. |
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TeachEnglish
Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 239
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Oh please...get off your negative soap box. If someone wants to work all the time.. selling private lessons to people that don't mind paying as much as $100 per hour for a lesson, one can make good money. What is ambitious? Everyone's definition of ambitious I am sure is different. Yes, you can't get rich off TEFL'ing, but I know some that have. Don't some of them actually own some of the franchises that some of you love to whine about? Give it a rest... Some of you whiners are really silly.  |
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Another old chestnut today. 100 dollar private lessons. Which native speaker ex TEFLers own all these franchises in Turkey? |
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Sheikh Inal Ovar

Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 1208 Location: Melo Drama School
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:40 am Post subject: |
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To some, doing all the privates god sends might be a sign of ambition, to others it's a sign of a TEFLer scratching around to make ends meet ... |
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Baba Alex

Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 2411
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: |
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thrifty wrote: |
Another old chestnut today. 100 dollar private lessons. Which native speaker ex TEFLers own all these franchises in Turkey? |
I charge 100 dollars an hour for private lessons. This is why I never get any, which suits me down to the ground as I hate giving private lessons, hence the 100 dollars price tag. |
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