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jeffinflorida · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:31 am Post subject: Sorry, we don't hire your kind...

So there i was in the training department talking to the hr geek girl. I noticed several resumes on her desk. I know they are looking for some new teachers to teach business english and basic english. Being in china i figure, "When in Rome..." and start looking at these resumes. ( At home It wouldn't be polite to look at papers on someone's desk, right?)

Not too many to chose from, only 4

1 american, 1 new zealand, 1 austrailian, 1 from finland.

I am reading them and the hr geek girl ask me what i thought about the american. i read his qualifacations and see he is from Florida... ok good there, right?

Checking out his name and the fact that he is from Miami I ask the girl if she saw his picture. She says no, why? I say because I think he is black. Here eyes widen and she writes on his resume "BLACK". I say will you interview him?

She says, NO! The students will not like a black man to teach them... They would be afraid of him...

Sonnet · Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 235 Location: South of the river

The ingrained racism in hiring teachers here can be disturbing to deal with. Some of the better teachers I've worked with have had a "non-white" face, or been non-native speakers.

I'm glad that I work somewhere where looks don't influence our hiring policy.

roadwalker · Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1750 Location: Ch

Warrior10 · Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 21 Location: Toronto, Canada.

daodejing · Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 39

eslstudies · Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 1061 Location: East of Aden

I wonder what the "geek" [now there's stereotyping!] girl's reaction would have been if the applicant was ABC [American Born Chinese]? Probably not much different. "Racism" is a convenient epithet, but prejudices extend far beyond race.
Some claim that employers "demand" American accents. They claim its a market force, and as such is OK. The "geek" says that students will be scared of a black person. Isn't this a market force?

Playing devil's advocate here folks. Don't tar and feather me over this post.

patsy · Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 179 Location: china

that is too funny. would you believe at hunan women's college the waiban told another teacher that the only "good" teacher they've ever had here is the "Black" one they hired a few years back. They said he was so friendly and popular with all the ladies. lol.

danswayne · Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 237

Patsy, still wondering if you ever make it to Wal-Mart. Also did you know there is a Subway restaurant opening up this week at the Wal-Mart by the walking street?

jeffinflorida · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject:

abusalam4 · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 143

Real racism....maybe they do not deserve good teachers.
Tell me if they are still looking around; I could propose an icebear that would love to teach English in forward-backward China!
Fortunately, they have borders and are not everywhere in the world....

cj750 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 3081 Location: Beijing

Brian Caulfield · Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 1247 Location: China

I ran into the same mentality in Nanyang . They hired black women but not black men . They said the same thing about students being afraid. They really meant the administration was afraid . Nothing more dangerous than a black man who hasn't been paid .

jeffinflorida · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:30 am Post subject:

cj750 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 3081 Location: Beijing

Brian Caulfield · Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 1247 Location: China

It means this white hass is meek. I got burned on my last job at Nan yang teachers college . What do you do go to the police who are there friends ? Hire a lawyer and go to court and lose more money because they are also their friends .
One time I was asked if I knew anyone who wanted to teach at this school and I told them I ran into a good teacher who I watched work . I told them his name and they already interviewed him and said this same line about the students being afraid . But the school had hired to African ladies in the past .
So for some reason they perceive African males as being agressive .