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nasigoreng
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 41 Location: sailing the seas of cheese
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:16 am Post subject: JET people: what do you do? |
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What is the JET program like? I've read the orientation info. but I want to read some personal accounts.
1) Does the school take care of you?
2) Are the students difficult (to teach)(to be in the same room with)?
3) Are you treated (respected) as a teacher?
4) What is required of you? What is a typical day like?
5) Are the expectations reasonable?
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:40 am Post subject: |
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I'm not a JET person, but I suggest you go to www.bigdaikon.com to ask your questions, too. That site has a lot of JETs on it.
You might want to look at what one person has written about her bad experience at JET at www.eltnews.com. She is Irish, and 2 JTEs have demanded that she change her accent (!), speak only in Japanese (despite no requirment from JET to do this), and NOT teach any new vocabulary (!!). So far, CLAIR is not backing her up. |
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lajzar
Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 647 Location: Saitama-ken, Japan
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Im not a JET. however, Im led to believe that the JET scheme is more a recruiting organisation than a controlling/guiding one. The JET scheme forces certain minimum standards in the contract and the recruitees, and allows the boards of education (BoE) to choose from the accepted applicants.
The actual day to day working conditions are pretty much left up to the individual BoE and its schools to decide between them. In this respect, my conditions are similar to a JETs life. The most important thing to remember is that every situation is different. So, to answer your questions...
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1) Does the school take care of you? |
Depends on what you mean by take care of? My school provides me with free access to the tea machine, a shoe locker, and a place to hang my coat. The JET contract requires that the school pay travel expenses (I have none). The single biggest variable in contracts is in housing. This ranges from "we will give you the address of an estate agent" to "we will give you the keys to this luxury house with no rent for the duration".
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2) Are the students difficult (to teach)(to be in the same room with)? |
Every class is different. What are schoolchildren like in your home country? Children are children. The main difference is that here they are less likely to carry guns, but they have their own tricks.
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3) Are you treated (respected) as a teacher? |
This varies a lot. At my urrent BoE, I am. Where I was last year, I wasn't.
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4) What is required of you? What is a typical day like? |
Typically, 15-18 hours of class contact time. You may also be expected to have lunch with the students. The rest of the time you are left to your own devices, but there is a strong expectation that you spend that time either studying Japanese or preparing for later lessons.
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5) Are the expectations reasonable? |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:27 am Post subject: Re: JET people: what do you do? |
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nasigoreng wrote: |
What is the JET program like? I've read the orientation info. but I want to read some personal accounts.
3) Are you treated (respected) as a teacher?
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If you look at the average person who goes on the JEt program, they are between 24 and 27 years of age, a university graduate, have little previous teaching experience and many do not hold teaching qualifications. Others have never set foot in a classroom before.
the teacher they are working with though not functionally fluent in English will have a university education, a teaching certificate,and anything from 3 to 20 years teaching experience, as well as a command of the language to communicate with students.
In Japan students dont respect (or not respect) you becuase of any teaching ability but becuase of your position. they really have no choice in the matter and while go along with whatever is thrown at them. You could say that managing a Japanese high school class is like herding sheep with the teacher standing at the front telling them what to do. Japanese high school students are not really renowned for using initiative and creativity in an English lesson.
The relation between the JET teacher and the Japanese teacher is a different kettle of fish. he may have to share a class with a monolingual, inexperienced, un qualified foreigner who treats JET like a 3 year vacation. there are many serious and dedicated foreigners on the JEt program, but many Japanese teachers are also resentful of lazy and incompetent JETs and the salary they receive.
Students and other teachers will respect you if you are competent,m enthusisatic and hard working and make an effort to learn the language and fit in with the school. Respect has to be earned IMO, and it is not just an entitlement just because you can speak english (though many Japanese English teachers can't) |
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lajzar
Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 647 Location: Saitama-ken, Japan
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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the teacher they are working with though not functionally fluent in English will have a university education, a teaching certificate,and anything from 3 to 20 years teaching experience, as well as a command of the language to communicate with students. |
Some JTEs (Japanese teachers of English) are fluent, some are totally illiterate in English. I have met both kinds. Some will have 20+ years of experience, others will be fresh out of university. Incidentally, the standard Japanse teacher traning course includes almost no practical teaching experience. A CELTA will give you almost as much practicum.
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In Japan students dont respect (or not respect) you becuase of any teaching ability but becuase of your position... |
That is the ideal. In my experience, although they may show the appearance of respect in formal situations where parents, outsiders and teh principal are all simultaneously watching, on a day to day basis, respect depends solely on how much they like you and how much they are disposed to granting respect in general. Children are children. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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There seem to be a lot of complaints about JET. Do you think some of the smaller ALT companies will replace the JET Program some day? |
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shmooj

Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 1758 Location: Seoul, ROK
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Not a chance. Do you know the budget the government allots to the program runs into the tens of billions of yen. That says something.
Personally, the way they throw money around there makes me feel very wary of the whole scheme especially seeing the arguably minimul impact it has on improving English abilities in schools (no offence to any JETs on the forum - it's the system not you).
There must be some very deep and hidden political and financial agendas in there somewhere and that these are not out on the surface bothers me.
Is it just me...  |
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cangel
Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 74 Location: Jeonju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:07 am Post subject: JET is great - for most |
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I was a JET for 3 years and it was great. The vast majority of JETs I know loved their time on the program. There are always small problems that occur but in the grand scheme of things, they tend to be quite trivial. One caveat about BigDaikon; the people who visit the site, by and large, have a negative outlook regarding the JET Programme - this is their forum. |
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cangel
Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 74 Location: Jeonju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:15 am Post subject: Your Questions |
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1) Does the school take care of you?
2) Are the students difficult (to teach)(to be in the same room with)?
3) Are you treated (respected) as a teacher?
4) What is required of you? What is a typical day like?
5) Are the expectations reasonable?
1. Yes, the schools take care of you. For example, they help set up your accounts for paying bills, and usually in furnishing your apartment.
2. It depends on your school. The lower their academic ability the more difficult the students will be. However, it is my experience that the higher their ability is, the less creative they tend to be in their lessons due to the pressure of completing X amount of material in a short amount of time.
3. This also depends on your school's ability level and of course how you as an ALT go about your business. In my experience, ALTs are usually respected but given little responsibility.
4. Usually ALTs start around 8:30 and work until 4:15. The day starts with the teachers' meeting. Depending on your school, you might be asked to help in lesson planning and test preparation as well as marking exams and essays. Usually you will be asked to help with a club, usually the English club - obviously. You will usually have 2-3 classes, sometimes more (ESID) per day. The human tape recorder is what you are primarily used for but it all depends. The days are easy and usually stress free.
5. The expectation are very reasonable. In fact most ALTs can't believe they get paid to do so little. |
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