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vieux canaille



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:12 am    Post subject: what's your favorite color of your favorite car? Reply with quote

Okay, so I borrowed this line from a Violent Femmes song...seems like the genre of question some employers might ask in an interview; sometimes they can be kind of cryptic. Anyhooo, a question for those of you who conduct interviews, in person or on the phone--what are the most important things you look for in a prospective employee? That is, if you could ask two or three questions, which would be the most important in your book?
Thanks for any and all input.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Do you want my job (I want someone at least as good as me, good for both of us)

2) If you got my job what would you do/change etc

3) What would you do if you found yourself with time on your hands at work.
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: what's your favorite color of your favorite car? Reply with quote

vieux canaille wrote:
Anyhooo, a question for those of you who conduct interviews, in person or on the phone--what are the most important things you look for in a prospective employee? That is, if you could ask two or three questions, which would be the most important in your book?
Thanks for any and all input.


It's hard to answer difinitively, because what we ask depends on the candidate. First, we recieve CVs and cover letters. Then we send out an extensive description of the job, school and town. Much longer than what we can say in a job ad. Many candidates withdrawl their applicantion at that point! Laughing Along with that description, we send three questions to be answered by email if the applicant is interested in moving to the next round. These are the same for everyone so we can compare applicants, but it really doesn't matter so much what you say, but that you show you are interested enough in the position to take the time to write a thoughtful answer. You'd be surpised how many people can't be bothered to do that. Then a group of four people look through the applications packets and choose the half dozen or more best candidates. We ask those candidates to send on references, scanned degrees and certificates, and the photo page of their passport. Again some just can't be bothered and drop out, we see if they are serious and that they have everything in order to come to Mexico. Once we've recieved those things we schedule a telephone interview and contact the references. Before the interview the hiring committe meets, looks over the applicants pack and the we decide what we want to ask that particular candidate. In our case, adaptability to the local environment outside of work is just as important as what will happen in the classroom. You need to give us some indication that you won't go crazy living here. Then I will ask something about your past teaching experiences, for more information about what you have on your resume. I also want to know that you don't consider your teacher education finished. What things you've learned recently and what things you like to learn in the future to make you a better teacher, along the lines of Phil's quesitons 1 and 2.
Then I want the candidate to ask me some questions, I can learn as much about them by hearing what concerns they have as I can from their answers to my questions.
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vieux canaille



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you melee, and thank you phil k for your insightful responses...something to chew on this weekend as I prepare for a phone interview that may lead to a potentially kick-arse job...
how true, melee, that we should never consider ourselves completely learned in our field.
phil, not sure what you meant by your first question, "do you want my job"--i would have to say no if your main responsability was administration. don't know if i read that question right...
and in response to question 3: if i found myself with time on my hands at work, i would wash them immediately before returning to work! Razz
no, seriously, i would probably take up origami or sudoku. just kiddin'!
of course i would use that time to better my lessons, research a topic for class, or make up activities or sth along those lines.
thanks again for your thoughts.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: what's your favorite color of your favorite car? Reply with quote

vieux canaille wrote:
That is, if you could ask two or three questions, which would be the most important in your book?


Oh the joys you TEFL interviewers have! I spent 10 years interviewing 'candidates' for jobs as service station cashiers. Only one question necessary, after checking for a pulse and breathing. When can you start?
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary, sometimes I feel like that myself.
When a new hire contacts us a week before the semester starts to inform us that they won't be coming after all, I often feel like we ought to just hold a job rush. First person to arrive with all the required papers in hand gets the job!

Luckily that hasn't happened in couple of years (knock knock)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"do you want my job"--


I probably misread the original post...I meant that for jobs in general, not just ESL. It means that the interviewee is ambitious and is not what we call in England, a "jobsworth". The thought occured to me 'cos I got my current position by applying for a job as a teacher, but impressed enough to be offered a partnership in a new company (the same one, if that makes sense!). Since then, the owner has informed me that in the next two years he wants to devote time to develope his diverse companies and will need some to run the whole show; guess who he has in mind...so I definitely want his job!

Your answer to the 3rd question was what I was looking for. Many people use that time to file their nails, read a mag, etc.
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:

Many people use that time to file their nails, read a mag, etc.


Post on Dave's...
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And how do y'all respond to the applicants who have visited the beach in Mexico for a short vacation or maybe not at all, that proclaim their desire to be teaching in Mexico because they "love the culture" and "want to improve the lives of Mexicans".
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samantha wrote:
And how do y'all respond to the applicants who have visited the beach in Mexico for a short vacation or maybe not at all, that proclaim their desire to be teaching in Mexico because they "love the culture" and "want to improve the lives of Mexicans".


"Thank-you, we'll be in touch" and then pray that the other interviews you have lined up are more fruitful....
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samantha wrote:
And how do y'all respond to the applicants who have visited the beach in Mexico for a short vacation

Er, as opposed to what? A long vacation?
I imagine there may be the occasional poster here who studied or lived in Mexico for a lengthy period, but when I came to Mexico to teach, I'd only visited a couple of times previously - and yes, on short vacations to the beach.
I would think that's pretty typical for most of us here.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My point blew over your head I guess. YOU obviously came to teach and not to do the Mexicans a favour simply because you just "love the culture" and can't wait to make things better for the poor sods. What can you possibly learn about the culture in a short vacation was part of my point yet so many mention that when arriving to teach here. Can you tell I'm sick of tourists about now? If you have done favours or not since you've been here is none of my business. Laughing
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam,
We get a lot of cover letters that say something like, "I spent a week in Oaxaca in 2003 and fell in love with the place. I've very excited at the prospect of living and working there."

This always makes me very apprehensive about the appliant.
Our city is 2 and 1/2 hours away from Oaxaca City and has little of the charm Oaxaca is famous for.

We also see the otherside of the coin--"I've visited Cancun, now I want to see the real Mexico. Confused

The most important thing is to be sincere. If you are naive, but sincere, that's fine. I hate those cover letters that are just full of stock phrases they think we want to hear. The cover letter should give us our first idea about who you are. No who you think we want you to be.
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