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Patcol
Joined: 06 Apr 2008
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Location: Norway
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 Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: Study and part time working, Visa? |
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Hi.
My name is Patrick, im from England.
Next year im participating in a exchange student program and i will be attending a type of public or Chinese boarding school in Beijing.
This exchange program is already payed for and i will be there a year.
But here comes my problem:
I want to stay, and i need to work part time to make the ends meet.
So after the first year is over and my study Visa expires, i will have to get a Z visa if i am to study AND work part time at the same time?
Also, ive heard they do not usually let foreigners in to these schools, but in some they do and they have to pay a higher tuition. How much do you think the tuition will be on a normal Chinese boarding High School?
But back to the real topic. What do you think i should do to get another Visa for my second year in China(i will be just about 1yr after the Olympics), which visa should i apply for and do you have any smart advice?
Cheers mates, thanks for any help=) |
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arioch36
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Z visa is simply the best, hands down
Z-visa is almost always for a full time position
technically you can't legally work on a student visa. the reality is that many do. however it is not 100% risk fee. There are students nabbed for teaching part time. More and more schools are being visited by the PSB (public security bureau). that's not to scare you. it is very unlikely that you would be caught for teaching while on a student visa. very unlikely.
If you are studying the first year, I would suggest work full time at a nice uni job your 2nd year, 14 hours a week, and you will have plenty of time to continue your studies. this would be on a z-visa
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Anda
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Jiangsu Province
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: Um |
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Are you a high school student or a university student? What degree etc will you have after a year here in China? For advice we need to know these things.
You could be limited to paid volunteer work if you do not have a university degree. Some places also want two years of work experience to issue a Z visa. |
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Patcol
Joined: 06 Apr 2008
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Location: Norway
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| arioch36 wrote: |
Z visa is simply the best, hands down
Z-visa is almost always for a full time position
technically you cn to legally work on a sudent visa. the reality is that many do. however it is not 100% risk fee. There are students nabbed for teaching part time. More and more schools are being visited by the PSB (public security bureau). that's not to scare you. it is very unlikely that you would be caught for teaching while on a student visa. very unlikely.
If you are studying the first year, I would suggest work full time at a nice uni job your 2nd year, 14 hours a week, and you will have plenty of time to continue your studies. this would be on a z-visa |
Thanks. Sow whay you are saying is that i could just work full time a year and then continue school after a year of full time labor? That might work, then i would apply for a X visa when i need to renew i guess. Or is it much easier to renew your Z visa then to apply for one the first time?
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Are you a high school student or a university student? What degree etc will you have after a year here in China? For advice we need to know these things.
You could be limited to paid volunteer work if you do not have a university degree. Some places also want two years of work experience to issue a Z visa. |
When you say it now i think i remember reading that.
Im a high school student, so this is a bit unfortunate for me, does not seem like ill get a Z visa at all then? Thats a shame..
I wonder how all this will be after the Olympics, thats when i will be needing a Z visa if im going to study and work, or maybe ill just have to work on a X Visa. Ill try and get some information about the risks and dangers of doing so.
Cheers guys, your really a helpful bunch=) |
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lf_aristotle69
Joined: 06 May 2006
Posts: 546
Location: HangZhou, China
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Hi Patrick,
I'm not sure I'm buying what you're saying... but...
Hello? As you will be coming to China to study you will only be able to get a student visa. After your first one expires you will have to get another one, if you are going to continue studying. Won't your parents be involved? I also doubt you can graduate from a Chinese school with an English/British High School Diploma (?)... so, when exactly are you planning to go back...
Which High School exchange program are you coming over to China on? Don't your fees to them pretty much cover everything? What did they tell you about working?
Quite a few mistakes in your English. What qualifies you to be a teacher? Have you at least taken an ESL teaching course?
Good luck... 
LFA |
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Patcol
Joined: 06 Apr 2008
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Location: Norway
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| lf_aristotle69 wrote: |
Hi Patrick,
I'm not sure I'm buying what you're saying... but...
Hello? As you will be coming to China to study you will only be able to get a student visa. After your first one expires you will have to get another one, if you are going to continue studying. Won't your parents be involved? I also doubt you can graduate from a Chinese school with an English/British High School Diploma (?)... so, when exactly are you planning to go back...
Which High School exchange program are you coming over to China on? Don't your fees to them pretty much cover everything? What did they tell you about working?
Quite a few mistakes in your English. What qualifies you to be a teacher? Have you at least taken an ESL teaching course?
Good luck...
LFA |
Hi. The company im traveling trough are called EF - Education First, NOT English first as many people think.
My English has suffered because i moved to Norway when i was 11, but i do speak much better than i write. Ive recently moved back(moved to my father) so i hope my English will improve a bit.
It works like this:
If the school i attend in China offer the same classes as i would need in Norway, then i can get my school year "over there" pre-approved.
I understand you might not believe me, but if there is anything you want me to elaborate on or any questions at all, just ask!
My parents will defintly be involved to some degree, but i will be about 19 when i do this, if i do it. Although im leaving to China for my FIRST year of school after the summer vacation now. And then, who knows, maybe ill want to stay, and thats why im doing this, reading about it and stuff.
I also have a friend living there. He attends internationl school, but thats way to expensive for me
Do you think i am to ambitious? |
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arioch36
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 3589
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