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Zhanglang
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 Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:50 am Post subject: Concealed carry weapon laws |
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I've read gun ownership is not permitted and a capital offense in Taiwan. Sadly, I'll be forced to part with my handgun. Does anyone have any information on other concealed carry weapon laws e.g. knives? I searched around on the net, but have been unable to find any information.
Also, are there any other areas that differ a lot from US law that a new teacher should be aware of?
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TaoyuanSteve
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Weapons will get you into trouble here. Very few countries in the world apart from the US (some states anyway) will tolerate concealed weapons. This isn't one of them. Are you seriously planning on carrying concealed weapons in Taiwan? Why?
Other areas people should be aware of are drug offenses. You'll do serious time for them. Also, stay away from married women. Adultery is a crime. |
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Zhanglang
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| TaoyuanSteve wrote: |
| Are you seriously planning on carrying concealed weapons in Taiwan? Why? |
I am just curious to learn more about the laws of Taiwan. It is always nice to be confident of your ability to defend yourself. If handguns are not allowed, I might be interested in carrying a knife. Do you know if this is allowed?
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| Other areas people should be aware of are drug offenses. You'll do serious time for them. Also, stay away from married women. Adultery is a crime. |
No worries about either of those. Although, my wife has told me ecstasy use in clubs is very common to see. Maybe things have changed some in the last few years? |
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dangerousapple
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| Do not carry a weapon here. Apart from the legality of it, if you were to get into a confrontation with someone and pull out a weapon, you would magnify your problem many times over. You would either end up in hospital or jail! |
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BigWally
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Why would you need to carry a weapon? What are you planning on doing here?  |
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Zhanglang
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| BigWally wrote: |
| Why would you need to carry a weapon? What are you planning on doing here? |
Why would any citizen ever need to carry a weapon? For self-defense of course. |
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TaoyuanSteve
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| Zhanglang wrote: |
| TaoyuanSteve wrote: |
| Are you seriously planning on carrying concealed weapons in Taiwan? Why? |
I am just curious to learn more about the laws of Taiwan. It is always nice to be confident of your ability to defend yourself. If handguns are not allowed, I might be interested in carrying a knife. Do you know if this is allowed?
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Seriously, lose the wild west mentality if you want to travel abroad. You are best to avoid conflict with anyone here. You don't know enough people here and you don't know the rules of engagement. If you escalate a conflict with a local by using or showing a weapon, you'll have armed locals in large numbers after you. In the age of cellphones, back up can arrive in minutes. You will lose, guaranteed. Should you use your weapon and cause serious harm to a local, expect retribution and expect to see the business side of Taiwanese jails for many years to come.
Aside from the odd traffic conflict, Taiwanese are not especially aggressive, especially toward expats. Carrying weapons is not only not necessary and illegal as it gets, but just plain dumb.
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| No worries about either of those. Although, my wife has told me ecstasy use in clubs is very common to see. Maybe things have changed some in the last few years? |
Drugs such as "E"-- and others-- are readily available here. This doesn't change the fact that the drug laws in Taiwan are among the harshest in the world and that foreigners can and have been incarcerated for drug charges. I won't go anywhere where I know drugs are being consumed or associate with anyone who I know is a user. Drug use is another one of the "just plain dumb" things to do in Taiwan. Upon entering Taiwan, you will notice a clearly displayed warning stating that drug offences are punishable by death. Pay heed to the warning. |
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dangerousapple
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| I used to know a guy a number of years ago who used to brag about how he was a great fighter and felt confident that he could handle himself in any situation. He was warned repeatedly by the old-timers that his attitude was going to get him into trouble. It took several weeks in the hospital with a broken arm and various other injuries for him to realize that the "tough guy" attitude just doesn't fit here. |
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Dr_Zoidberg
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| Zhanglang wrote: |
| BigWally wrote: |
| Why would you need to carry a weapon? What are you planning on doing here? |
Why would any citizen ever need to carry a weapon? For self-defense of course. |
What do you think you need to defend yourself from?
I've been here almost three years and have never even had so much as an argument. I'm sure there are other expats who have been here even longer without needing to defend themselves. Taiwan is as safe a place as any. The only trouble you're going to find here is what you go looking for.
If you honestly feel you need to carry a concealed weapon in order to be safe, you have some serious issues. Keep them over there. |
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Zhanglang
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| dangerousapple wrote: |
| I used to know a guy a number of years ago who used to brag about how he was a great fighter and felt confident that he could handle himself in any situation. He was warned repeatedly by the old-timers that his attitude was going to get him into trouble. It took several weeks in the hospital with a broken arm and various other injuries for him to realize that the "tough guy" attitude just doesn't fit here. |
It has nothing to do with feeling tough. It has everything to do with feeling safe. I've trained jiujitsu since 2000 and have a few amateur fights under my belt, but I also carry a glock 27. Some may find it hard to understand, but it's a matter of feeling safe rather than unprepared. I didn't make this thread to get into a debate about gun control, but to find out laws regarding weapon carry laws. |
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Zhanglang
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| Dr_Zoidberg wrote: |
What do you think you need to defend yourself from?
I've been here almost three years and have never even had so much as an argument. I'm sure there are other expats who have been here even longer without needing to defend themselves. Taiwan is as safe a place as any. The only trouble you're going to find here is what you go looking for.
If you honestly feel you need to carry a concealed weapon in order to be safe, you have some serious issues. Keep them over there. |
This is the way I see it. A much higher percent of the population will be a victim of a violent crime in their lifetime than will be in a serious car accident. If you are so adamant on wearing a seatbelt for wellbeing, why would you not be equally or even more so on carrying a weapon?
I don't look for trouble. I would like to think I'm pretty cultured and have reached a pretty high position in society. This doesn't ensure safety. My house has been broken into twice and I have been robbed at knife point once. These are things that could happen to anyone.
You say Taiwan is safer and you have nothing to worry about? If you compare Taiwan's National Police Administration homicide statistics to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report, you'll find Taiwan has non-gun murder rates in excess of the our (US) TOTAL murder rate.  |
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dangerousapple
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I am not trying to be a jerk here, but be careful.
There is no such thing as a one-on-one fight in Taiwan. If you start something, you will end up with an entire room (or street) full of people enjoying the opportunity to beat up a foreigner. It doesn't matter what kind of training you have or what kind of shape you are in. If you have a heightened need for security you may react more aggressively than the situation should warrant, and you will get hurt.
The vast majority of Taiwanese are non-confrontational, but that small minority just sits and waits for any opportunity to get into something.
I've been here 12 years and have had my share of trouble. Almost all of it happened in my first two years when I didn't understand how to handle conflict the Taiwanese way. |
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TaoyuanSteve
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| Zhanglang wrote: |
| dangerousapple wrote: |
| I used to know a guy a number of years ago who used to brag about how he was a great fighter and felt confident that he could handle himself in any situation. He was warned repeatedly by the old-timers that his attitude was going to get him into trouble. It took several weeks in the hospital with a broken arm and various other injuries for him to realize that the "tough guy" attitude just doesn't fit here. |
It has nothing to do with feeling tough. It has everything to do with feeling safe. I've trained jiujitsu since 2000 and have a few amateur fights under my belt, but I also carry a glock 27. Some may find it hard to understand, but it's a matter of feeling safe rather than unprepared. I didn't make this thread to get into a debate about gun control, but to find out laws regarding weapon carry laws. |
Your question has been answered: No concealed weapons allowed in Taiwan. Can we get any clearer on that?
Aside from the legality issue, you have several longer term residents of Taiwan telling you how it is here and you're refusing to listen. If you carry a weapon, get into an argument with a local and flash it, big trouble for you. Period.
Feeling safe is your state of mind only. If you carry a gun, you are statistically way more at risk of suffering from violence than if you didn't. |
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Zhanglang
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Your question has been answered: No concealed weapons allowed in Taiwan. Can we get any clearer on that? |
Actually, no one answered me. Everyone just stated their opinion on the need to carry a knife. And I'm willing to bet your opinion on the matter is nothing more than that, an opinion. I find it highly unlikely that a major manufacturer and exporter of fine knives would have laws prohibiting citizens from buying or carrying them. Thanks for your opinion. |
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TaoyuanSteve
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| Zhanglang wrote: |
| TaoyuanSteve wrote: |
Your question has been answered: No concealed weapons allowed in Taiwan. Can we get any clearer on that? |
Actually, no one answered me. Everyone just stated their opinion on the need to carry a knife. And I'm willing to bet your opinion on the matter is nothing more than that, an opinion. I find it highly unlikely that a major manufacturer and exporter of fine knives would have laws prohibiting citizens from buying or carrying them. Thanks for your opinion. |
Huh? I said: No concealed weapons. That's fact. Not opinion. I've lived here for years, speak and read Chinese to a high level and have had direct experience with the laws and courts here.
But you go right ahead and bring your weapons.
I hate trying to convince noobs, especially those who aren't even here yet. You know everything, man. Teach me.  |
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