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blaz44



Joined: 03 Jan 2005
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Location: wroclaw, poland

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:41 pm    Post subject: No visa required for ESL Teachers Reply with quote

I keep on hearing recent news that English teachers of non-EU countries are no longer required to have working visas. Have seen some documents in Polish state this(my wife translated them). Nothing on the Polish embassy website about this though and I am waiting for a response from the Polish embassy in Canada. Does anyone know the real situation.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's for jobs that last less than three months.
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the new guy



Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, along with my native Polish friend/collegue, were in the Immigration offices and other offices such as Pesel & Pobytu offices in my city and saw 4 different documents supporting that Native English speakers do not need to have a work visa/work permit.
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joshsweigart



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're exactly right and if you were in the places to get your PESEL and karta pobytu you were probably doing everything that you need to do to be completely legal in Poland. Case closed.
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dfm



Joined: 07 Oct 2006
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Location: Poland

PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I understand of the situation, and I am going through this process for next year, the non-requirement of a work visa for nonEU national English teachers only applies if you are employed by an institution
which is an "accredited School" under the Ministry of Education, and also are employed by the Polish company responsible for the school.
You would need to check out all these components with your individual schools. It does not apply to Language schools in general.
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celtdancer



Joined: 16 Jan 2009
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Location: USA

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:27 pm    Post subject: getting the Work Visa (an American in Poland) Reply with quote

Hi, I'm an American in Poland, and I'm being offered a job teaching English at an accredited school. She is willing to write me the work promise letter; sounds like I don't need a Work Permit (yahoo!) but still need a Work Visa to stick in my passport. And I don't want to fly back to America, and the job is supposed to start in a week - not much time.

So does anybody know exactly how to get the WORK VISA to stick in my passport, while here in Poland, WITHOUT going back to America?

Some of you *have* written that it's possible to stay in Poland whilst getting the Work Visa, so I'd love to hear from you.

I have already: obtained my Zamel regarding place to live; submitted my application to confirm Polish citizenship (but that will take months); submitted my Residency Permit for Defined Period of Time (on day 44, so "in time" for the rules) but the Residence Permit did NOT INCLUDE any information about a JOB. I applied based on "Other" category, wanting to stay in Poland until my citizenship decision is issued.

Should I just try to "add" a work promise letter (from my future boss) to my already-filed Residency Permit application? Wow, I bet that would confuse the Wojewodskie just as much as they have confused me! Ha ha. And/but, I am past the 45 days now, so am I too late to submit for a Work Visa? And where do I submit-- same Wojewodskie where I submitted the Residency Permit application? Or Warsaw? (I do not live in Warsaw; I live in a small village in Kujarskie-Pomeranian or at least that's how I spell it; sorry haven't learned it exactly yet).

Any guidance is appreciated.
-kristina
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the new guy



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

/\ OMFG this post is making my eyes bleed.....

You've basically said all this in another thread.

the information is out there...i've read it...i've steered you in the right direction to get your info....


You should have known all this info regarding work visas before hopping on a plane and coming over here.

bottom line YOU MUST GO TO YOUR COUNTRY OF RESIDENCE TO OBTAIN YOUR WORK VISA!!!!

go back to the USA and start over again. Sorry for sounding harsh...but its the only way around it.
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scottie1113



Joined: 25 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a citizen of a non EU country, you don't need a work permit or work visa to teach English. I'm from the US and have been through the residency card process twice. I'll say it again. You DON'T need a work visa to teach English in Poland.
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the new guy



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

/\ supporting documentaion for this please?? I have a work visa just to keep it on the safe side.
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Harry from NWE



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scottie1113 wrote:
As a citizen of a non EU country, you don't need a work permit or work visa to teach English. I'm from the US and have been through the residency card process twice. I'll say it again. You DON'T need a work visa to teach English in Poland.


That would depend on whether your school is registered with the Polish Ministry of Education or not. A lot of the smaller language schools (especially the ones which focus on business English and/or adult learners) are not registered with the Ministry and people working for those schools do need a work permit if they don't have an EU passport.
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the new guy



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry....I'm Canadian....here in PL, working for a non-accredited school. I have ONLY a work VISA..... I do NOT need a PERMIT.

please provide supporting government documentaion to back up your claims about work visas and work permits.

heres my documentaion --
V. Most significant categories of non-EEA nationals are not required to possess a work permit:
1. Foreign language teachers � native speakers. citizens of the U.S.A., Canada, Australia, New Zealand.
http://www.wup.mazowsze.pl/cudzoziemcy/angielski.pdf


all u need to know about residency
http://www.udsc.gov.pl/INSTRUCTION,FOR,FOREIGNERS,,704.html
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Harry from NWE



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the new guy wrote:
Harry....I'm Canadian....here in PL, working for a non-accredited school. I have ONLY a work VISA..... I do NOT need a PERMIT.

please provide supporting government documentaion to back up your claims about work visas and work permits.

heres my documentaion --
V. Most significant categories of non-EEA nationals are not required to possess a work permit:
1. Foreign language teachers � native speakers. citizens of the U.S.A., Canada, Australia, New Zealand.


Aren't you the same guy who has recently told us how he set up a Sp�łka Komandytowa? I'm rather confused as to why you went to all the trouble of doing that when you don't need a work permit.

BTW: when you went to the Polish consulate to get your work visa, did you by any chance take with you a piece of paper called a 'promisa'?
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the new guy



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i set up a SK not only for teaching, but because i am going to go into business, in the importing/retail sector. It was the best choice for me. Is it a problem for you??

I'm not married to a Pole, and NON EU, so the SK was the best option for me. If you think not, go consult govt offices and tell me what I could have done differently.

I KNOW i do NOT need a WORK PERMIT hence I didn't bother with it.

I still needed a WORK VISA or i could only have 90 days in. So I got it. It just gives me security while here. Helps with all Govt offices.

When I went to the consulate, my school had to send(fax) a promise of work to them directly. It was added to my application, and sent to Poland for verification.

You still haven't shown any supporting documents regarding the NO WORK VISA for NON EU Nationals.
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Harry from NWE



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the new guy wrote:
yes i set up a SK not only for teaching, but because i am going to go into business, in the importing/retail sector. It was the best choice for me. Is it a problem for you??

Not at all. Good luck to you. With your attitude, you'll need it.



the new guy wrote:
You still haven't shown any supporting documents regarding the NO WORK VISA for NON EU Nationals.

I've contacted my friend who runs one of the larger schools in Warsaw. Apparently you need to check http://www.udsc.gov.pl/Wykonywanie,pracy,przez,cudzoziemcow,w,RP,511.html and http://www.menis.pl/prawo_oswiatowe.html

Want me to run it past a lawyer too?
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the new guy



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice comment about my attitude. you know nothing about me. I'm not going to lower myself to your level and sling insults.

nice links, too bad you can't have them in English for all of us to see. How about quoting some sections??


At least my links were in English so all users of this forum can read them.

And there is no reason for my lawyer to read anything.

I don't know about you, I don't plan to be a teacher the rest of my life.

I am starting a business and in 1 year I will be not concerned about the 2000-3000pln i make every month from a language school and wonder what i am going to do with the next 25 years of my life.

Life will be enjoyed not working in a language school. But whatever floats your boat
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