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geoboz
Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 39
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: Oaxaca, Mexico: UMAR Warning! |
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Please be fully advised that Universidad del Mar in Oaxaca, Mexico poses security risks to both male and female teachers from north of the border. After enduring nighttime harrasment for 6 months, the university personnel made veiled threats against my life for exposing a crime that the university administration had committed. When I reported this level of harassment to the US consulate in Oaxaca, Mexico, I was advised to evacuate immediately. I was gone in 2 days with the help of friends there and in the States.
Other security risks exist at this university as well. I advise extreme caution when considering a job opportunity there. You may be their next victim. |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: Puzzled |
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I work at one of the three campuses of this particular university.
I have no idea what you might be writing about, but I'd certainly like to know more details!
Please PM me. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Wow...can't leave this hanging. Any updates here? What crime did admin perpetrate? |
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englishgibson
Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:32 am Post subject: |
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I was threatened before by certain international chain of schools, but I didn't contact my Canadian consulate and neither did I leave the country where I was threatened. So OP, I know how you feel. Threats are to be considered seriously and if your consulate's advised you to leave then you've done the right thing. Since you might've alerted many by posting on the forum and you are in a safe place now, it'd be helpful to know what really happened there. I am not in Mexico, although have been contemplating some work there.
Peace to Universidad del Mar in Oaxaca
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cheers and beers to all hard working FTs around the globe |
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delacosta
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 325 Location: zipolte beach
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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To clear things up about this matter, I work at the school in question and am aware of the situation.
All I'm going to say is that sometimes in the ESL world people go off the deep end. I mean we meet crazy characters all the time, some more than others and anyways we're all a bit crazy, are we not?
If someone were to have a meltdown in a foreign country the consulate or embassy would always advise that said person return to their country of origin.
Crazy stuff happens at UMAR and Mexico as a whole all the time.
Luis Bu�el, the Spanish master surrealist filmmaker lived here for over 30 years and loved it because the surreal was the stuff of daily existence. If one were to be already walking the thin line between insane and sane Mexico would in all likelihood provide the little shove over the precipice.
There are plenty of reasons to not work at UMAR if one were so inclined, but there are as equally many to work here. I have experienced many of both types over the six years that I�ve been here.
I can assure Dave�s readers that having one�s life threatened does NOT enter into the range of possibilities. I�m positive that the other posters who work in the Oaxacan state university system will agree.
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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delacosta wrote: |
There are plenty of reasons to not work at UMAR if one were so inclined, but there are as equally many to work here. I have experienced many of both types over the six years that I�ve been here.
I can assure Dave�s readers that having one�s life threatened does enter into the range of possibilities. I�m positive that the other posters who work in the Oaxacan state university system will agree.
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You seem to be leaving yourself a "hostage to fortune" there. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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I can assure Dave�s readers that having one�s life threatened does enter into the range of possibilities. |
What? Are you talking about life abroad in general here or about UMAR specifically? Of course, anyone can threaten anyone's life anywhere anytime, but could you clear up what you mean here? |
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delacosta
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 325 Location: zipolte beach
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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OMG!
What a typo!
That sould read
does not enter in the realm of possibilities. |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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delacosta wrote: |
I can assure Dave�s readers that having one�s life threatened does NOT enter into the range of possibilities. I�m positive that the other posters who work in the Oaxacan state university system will agree. |
Yes, I concur. I feel as safe or safer living here than in my 'home' country.
I'm also aware of the OP's situation. I think it best not to add onto what delacosta wrote, other than to say it's accurate. |
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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delacosta wrote: |
OMG!
What a typo!
That sould read
does not enter in the realm of possibilities. |
For some reason I thought you had written that. In which case my original response stands.
How can you say that having one's life threatened "does not enter into the range of possibilities"?
It enters into the range of possibilities anywhere. The chances maybe small but do you want to be the person to say that it couldn't happen, when surely it could? |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Here ya go, Furious, have a small pair of scissors.
You'll need to them to split that hair any finer...  |
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
You'll need to them to split that hair any finer...  |
Well, while we're at it, here's a set of cuisenaire rods:
To order word your sort out.  |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Too many meds right now...though subscribe do I to the school of Yoda, as well.
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englishgibson
Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:01 am Post subject: |
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nice ya takin' it on here .... all kinda "orders" comin' ... love those pics, i must say
op, still feel sorry for your misfortune
peace to our forums
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cheers and beers to all hard working fts around the world  |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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To the OP, why didn-t you post this on the Mexico forum? |
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