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captain_fat



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: sending money home (to canada) Reply with quote

hello

I was wondering what the cheapest way to do this is.

Last month i tried to send home 20 000. I used ICBC in Taiwan obviosuly, and CIBC in canada.

ICBC chargred me 400NT and by the time the money had found its way home another $35 had been taken. so about $50 canadian was lost in the process total. Seems like alot to me especially on only 20 000

Surely there must be a cheaper way. Any help?
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Puliboy



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Re: sending money home (to canada) Reply with quote

captain_fat wrote:
I was wondering what the cheapest way to do this is.



Hi,

If you have somedy you can trust back home (parents, brother, sister...) you can open a new bank account and ask for a bank card that can be used in ATMs overseas. Send the card to that trusty person.

You then just have to transfer or deposit the money you want sent in the new bank account in Taiwan. Your contact in Canada goes to an ATM, withdraws the money in CAD and deposits it in your Canadian bank account.

It's the best and cheapest way IMHO.
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Dr_Zoidberg



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been in Taiwan almost three years and have yet to see an ATM here that accepts deposits. Are they all up in Taipei?

captain_fat, there's a reason for the $50 in service charges, three banks are involved: ICBC, CIBC, and whichever correspondent bank it passed through.

Rather than pay $50 to transfer 20 000 NT, why not transfer 100 000 NT at a time? That way the service charge is 1.4% instead of 7.1%
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Toe Save



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr_Zoidberg wrote:
I've been in Taiwan almost three years and have yet to see an ATM here that accepts deposits.



How does that negate the advice given? Deposit your money directly. Then have your accomplice withdraw and transfer it in Canada. Now you are only paying $1.50 service charge (which I still think is ridic).
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captain_fat



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tao steve:

Ive put my cibc card into the tellers here and there is no option to deposit...only withdrawl.

How can I get the deposit option? My ICBC card also does not let me transfer funds to international banks.

Can anyone be a little more specific in terms of what banks they use to directly deposit NT into their Canadian accounts and have the accomplice back home move them over?


Thanks
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Toe Save



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

captain_fat wrote:
tao steve:

Ive put my cibc card into the tellers here and there is no option to deposit...only withdrawl.

How can I get the deposit option? My ICBC card also does not let me transfer funds to international banks.

Can anyone be a little more specific in terms of what banks they use to directly deposit NT into their Canadian accounts and have the accomplice back home move them over?


Thanks


Tao Steve has not contributed to this thread (yet). Do you only want advice from him?

Prolly not.

No one deposits directly. It's meiyo banfa. You have to deposit into your Taiwanese account and give an ATM card to your North American proxy. They will withdraw the cash and walk it over to your CIBC or RBC branch.

But this has already been explained to you. Read more carefully me lad.

Toe Save
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MomCat



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious too. Will any Taiwanese bank issue an ATM card that can be used overseas or only some of the big ones. Which one(s) do you know of that will?

Thanks,
Cat
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Toe Save



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MomCat wrote:
I'm curious too. Will any Taiwanese bank issue an ATM card that can be used overseas or only some of the big ones. Which one(s) do you know of that will?

Thanks,
Cat


Regardless, you'll have to get whichever (Tw) bank to push a few buttons to permit the card to be used overseas. You must request this service before sending your card to your proxy. Prolly requires it to be swiped before travelling, too. So do it first.

I found this out the hard way in Bali. My card had worked on previous trips to HK and Thailand, but once in Bali, no go. Fortunately, my friend had some US cash in an American account and he accessed that for me.
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MomCat



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good information, thanks
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Puliboy



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MomCat wrote:
I'm curious too. Will any Taiwanese bank issue an ATM card that can be used overseas or only some of the big ones. Which one(s) do you know of that will?


I'm not sure every Taiwanese bank can do it. I do business with the Bank of Taiwan and they can.

A little advice : It doesn't hurt to mention that the card will be used by your elderly parents so you can support them financially. Taiwan is very family oriented and they will be most obliged to help.

Oh, and I'm trying to understand how could some people have thought, by reading my first tread, that one can deposit in an ATM in Taiwan. Maybe I should've been more clear. And, ToeSave, thanks.
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MomCat



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again.

"Elderly Parents" Ha! I am an elderly parent. Maybe I'll use my granddaughter's education.

Cat
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mean to hijack the thread but I've got a query along the same lines. Has anybody used Western Union to send cash home?
I have no idea how this works or what they charge but would appreciate some info from someone who has done it.

Thanks.
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BigWally



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to know the break down of charges exactly then ask the person working at the foreign currency exchange desk you send your money thru. They will be able to tell you about ICBC charges.

Send and email to CIBC back home and ask them what charges they charge you.

I use Bank of Kaohsiung, and they charge me about $500NT to send money, and Royal Bank of Canada charges about $20 for an overseas deposit. I figure its worth it since it gets the money to my account in less than 3 days.
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StayingPower



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just went through this same scenario yesterday, knowing the repercussions of sending money back home. So the bank manager at my bank here-Taiwan Cooperative-told me to go via PayPal.com. He'd said they could transfer money from your account here to you account back home. I think it's just a couple of bucks.

Next wire transfer, I'm going to give it a shot. I lost about $40.00 too.
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trukesehammer



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said it before and I'll say it again...



Just buy a MONEY ORDER!
...then send it in the mail to your bank in Canada. Yes, I know it takes longer and yes, I know it still involves a "service charge," but nothing like the 50 Canadian bucks the "intermediary bank" leeches are sucking off you.

BTW, the Chinese word for "money order" is 匯票, pronounced hu� p�ao. Unfortunately, here in Taiwan, you cannot just walk into a bank, plunk down your cash and walk out with your money order. As with nearly everything else, you gotta apply for it (still worth the trouble IMHO). A lot of other banks will take your application and tell you to come back tomorrow or even next week but I find that ICBC (Now "Mega Bank") offers the best same-day service.
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