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happigur1



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Res Permit Reply with quote

I sent in all my forms (medical, FEC, etc.) to my employer. A week later, they said that the gov. department that is doing the paperwork to issue the visa need to see a copy of my resident permit. Does anyone know why? Also, how LONG does it normally take? I will be in Zhengzhou, Henan.

On another unrelated topic: Why is Henan pronouced "Ho-nan"? With pinyin... shouldn't it be more of a "Ha-nahn" sound?
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't really give you a good answer on number one, but number two I can. Should be h(eh) nan, Honan is probably the dialect. It could be called Holan where I live. Definitely He1 nan2 is correct putonghua.
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evaforsure



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they also requested a copy of mine current) when I applied for my new RP as well as my local house reg
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IT2006



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Location: Wichita, KS, and westward.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Res Permit Reply with quote

happigur1 wrote:
I sent in all my forms (medical, FEC, etc.) to my employer. A week later, they said that the gov. department that is doing the paperwork to issue the visa need to see a copy of my resident permit. Does anyone know why? Also, how LONG does it normally take? I will be in Zhengzhou, Henan.



It is indicated that you reside in the U.S..

All of your paperwork (and passport) should have been sent to the Chinese consulate in your jurisdiction in the U.S. whereupon the visa would be placed in your passport (if your other paperwork meets specs).

If you are in China, the provincial government may want to see if your resident permit is current.
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happigur1



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wangdaning wrote:
Can't really give you a good answer on number one, but number two I can. Should be h(eh) nan, Honan is probably the dialect. It could be called Holan where I live. Definitely He1 nan2 is correct putonghua.


So I can say either one and be correct? A friend originally from Chongqing, lives in Nanjing for a decade couldn't figure out what I was saying when I said "H(eh)nan" so I spelt it for him and he pronounced it "Ho-nan". This is why learning Chinese confuses me...

IT2006 wrote:

It is indicated that you reside in the U.S..

All of your paperwork (and passport) should have been sent to the Chinese consulate in your jurisdiction in the U.S. whereupon the visa would be placed in your passport (if your other paperwork meets specs).

If you are in China, the provincial government may want to see if your resident permit is current.


But my resident permit doesn't say anything about residing in the U.S. My passport does Wink I am currently still in the U.S. (waiting) and my resident permit expired at the end of my last contract...
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The Ever-changing Cleric



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it sounds like you finished one job in China, went home to the US, your old residence permit expired, and now you're applying for a Z visa to begin a new job with a different employer in China. I don't know why any potential employer or government office at the new place of work would want to see the expired residence permit from another job. Are the two jobs, former and future, in the same province? Maybe that's it. If you're staying at the same job they want/need to see the old residence permit, esp. if you're staying on for a consecutive term.

well, whatever the reason, it's easy enough to scan a copy of it (old res. permit) and email it to them. But you should ask them why so another mystery of China can be cleared up.
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swine32



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey I'm moving to Zhengzhou very soon, you should send me an email at [email protected].
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happigur1



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Ever-changing Cleric wrote:
it sounds like you finished one job in China, went home to the US, your old residence permit expired, and now you're applying for a Z visa to begin a new job with a different employer in China. I don't know why any potential employer or government office at the new place of work would want to see the expired residence permit from another job. Are the two jobs, former and future, in the same province? Maybe that's it. If you're staying at the same job they want/need to see the old residence permit, esp. if you're staying on for a consecutive term.

well, whatever the reason, it's easy enough to scan a copy of it (old res. permit) and email it to them. But you should ask them why so another mystery of China can be cleared up.


yes, you are correct. I left on good terms with my old work place- they couldn't re-hire me because all the positions were filled. The two jobs are not in the same province.

Here is the email I got:
Because Linda has worked in China before, the bureau of foreign experts affairs needs to see Linda's Residence Permit For Foregner in China. If she has this permit, the bureau of foreign experts affairs will give her Foreign Expert Certificate; if not , we have to transact
for her. This is an important part of the whole procedure. Could you send me the scaned page of her Residence Permit (in her passport)?Something like the one I show it to you. Please scan it to me as soon as possible.

I am not sure what they mean by "transact" and I already have a FEC ...
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

happigur1 wrote:

So I can say either one and be correct? A friend originally from Chongqing, lives in Nanjing for a decade couldn't figure out what I was saying when I said "H(eh)nan" so I spelt it for him and he pronounced it "Ho-nan". This is why learning Chinese confuses me...


Yes, Henan, Helan, Honan, Holan, Fonan, and Folan can all be used. Gets me all mixed up too. I stick with the standard pronunciation and wait for others to come around. Chongqing dialect is a Sichuan dialect where "he" always changes to "ho." "Ge" changes to "go." Also n usually switches to l. H is occasionally switched to f. Who knows how the people actually communicate effectively.
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jamesmollo



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:59 am    Post subject: residence permit Reply with quote

You get your f.e.c when you re-enter China, your old one is null and void, same with the r.p.f
So what are they talking about?
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jamesmollo



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:01 am    Post subject: residence permit Reply with quote

More lively they want to see your recommendation letter and release letter.
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evaforsure



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the rp is only void if it is out of date...is it still good
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happigur1



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamesmollo wrote:
More lively they want to see your recommendation letter and release letter.


Would you still need one (release letter) if the contract expired? The school already saw my letter of recs (one of my former boss in FAO). I just contacted the school. They just got the work permit and now are going to apply for the visa. How long does THIS normally take? Would there be any reason why a visa would be rejected?

evaforsure wrote:
the rp is only void if it is out of date...is it still good


It is void. Expired 6/30/2009.

In any case, maybe this will remain another mystery...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it looks like they were trying to same money and time by transfering your papers.. it is likely the office will have to start over...and it should take too long .. sounds like they respond quickly
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happigur1



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

evaforsure wrote:
it looks like they were trying to same money and time by transfering your papers.. it is likely the office will have to start over...and it should take too long .. sounds like they respond quickly


"should" take too long or "shouldn't" take too long? I would assume visa would take 1 week, 2 at most... plus the director said he has good relationship with the people in the office... so we'll see!
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