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Different types of Teaching Certification

 
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fromCanada



Joined: 20 Sep 2003
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Location: Ontario

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:11 am    Post subject: Different types of Teaching Certification Reply with quote

Hi,

I apologize in advance if this has topic has been addressed before...

Could someone tell me what type of certification (ie. CELTA) is preferred in Japan? (if there is a preference for one over the other) (In addition to a BA). I know a certificate is not absolutely necessary...but for my case I think it may be especially helpful in terms of getting hired since I'm a Japanese-Canadian.

So far, I have only come across TESL/TESOL type certifcates that one can complete in a weekend or 5 days. (Not interested to be honest).

I was advised to find something with more than 100 hours of in-class training and a couple hours of practicum. Is CELTA the "best" one to get?

Thanks and your comments are appreciated. Very Happy


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BenJ



Joined: 11 May 2003
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Location: Nagoya

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the names can be confusing - my TESOL cert is a 5 week crash-course with the stated number of teaching hours. It all depends on the advertising
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if the names mean a lot in Japan. Don't take the weekend TESL courses for the obvious reasons, even if the price is tempting. I took the CELTA in Vancouver and it was great. Highly recommend it. There may be other courses out there, but the CELTA is the most widely known and recognized. PM me if you have any specific questions. Where are you living?
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Kestrel



Joined: 15 May 2003
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Location: Kyoto, Japan

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took a course offered by the School for Internation Training (based in Vermont) that got me a certificate from them and a CELTA. It was a four week crash course, very intensive, but really good. We had two trainers (one for each certificate, basically) and 7 people, so it was a great ratio. I found the SIT and CELTA styles complemented each other nicely. They offer the course in Boston and in Kyoto, and perhaps in a few other places, I'm not sure.

Tom
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Canuck2112



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took a 50 hour TESL course offered by Oxford Seminars. To be perfectly honest, the only worthwhile part of it was the teaching practicum at the end. We also received an excellent textbook, called "How to teach English" by Jeremy Harmer. I'm not sure it was excellent enough to warrant $600 CDN though Smile

I do, however, think that having TESL certification gave me a slight edge in interviews. Despite the triviality of the course, it shows employers that you are serious about pursuing overseas teaching.

You didn't mention where you wanted to teach, but if you're going for one of the big 4 (GEOS, NOVA, AEON and ECC) I've heard that having a CELTA can actually be a disadvantage. I get the impression that they want young, inexperienced teachers so they can shape them in their own image. I'm not sure if this is true, but I will say that in two interviews I went to, 3 different people with CELTA certification didn't get invited back to subsequent interviews.
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fromCanada



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 7:26 pm    Post subject: Original Poster Reply with quote

Hello,

I posted the original message...so far the big companies don't appeal to me. It probably has something to do with reading too many horror stories! Anyhow, I have Japanese citizenship so I don't need visa sponsorship and I'd rather check out a school before working for it.

I think I will stick with getting a CELTA certificate and going independent.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think I will stick with getting a CELTA certificate and going independent.


That would be my advice to you (or was it) if I were you.
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april



Joined: 07 May 2003
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know a certificate is not absolutely necessary...but for my case I think it may be especially helpful in terms of getting hired since I'm a Japanese-Canadian.

If I have inferred correctly, please don't let that be a concern at all. There are many non-Caucasian people teaching English in Japan. Your heritage may actually be an advantage.
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Mosley



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canuck 2112 is basically correct about the "factory " eikaiwa being leery of those w/qualifications and/or experience. It doesn't help if you're over 35, either. In any event, good luck!
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Sez



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 6 week TEFL qualification accredited by a UK University and still got offered a job with an eikaiwa - I don't think it always restricts you but obviously I don't have any substantial experience so I think this probably helped.
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sez wrote:
I have a 6 week TEFL qualification accredited by a UK University and still got offered a job with an eikaiwa - I don't think it always restricts you but obviously I don't have any substantial experience so I think this probably helped.


Sez, this is a case of the chicken or the egg: most foreigners coming to teach in japan dont have any experience when they first come here, and the large langauge schools dont demand it, as they prefer to train you in their own particular style. You cnat get a good job without experience, and you cant get experience without a job.

Once you have got a job it is then possible to develop some solid teaching experience. The TEFL qualification will help you leapfrog in to better paying positions or high school teaching if that is the direction you want to take.

The TEFL certificate wont necessarily teach you how to teach well in one month, but they will make a bad or inexperienced teacher better at teaching EFL. I also believe you get what you pay for- there is only so much you can learn in a 50 hour course as opposed to a 100 hour course or CELTA SIT etc.
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