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tvik



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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:49 am    Post subject: "the war on terror" Reply with quote

personally i think it's a big scam. it a code word for the clash of civilizations
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject: Re: "the war on terror" Reply with quote

tvik wrote:
personally i think it's a big scam. it a code word for the clash of civilizations


Ha! It's like the war on drugs. Total double speak, Orwell was right in many of his predictions/warnings. Governments have fabricated this imaginary "war" so they can have greater control over people's freedom. They used the idea of a "war on drugs" so that they can do random stop and searches. I'm not suggesting some great conspiracy here by the way, it happens naturally in society. There isn't one person thinking, "I want to restrict freedoms", middle society does it itself. Drugs became direct threat to the standard middle class way of life, so they naturally had to do something. SO too with terrorism. The best way to stop terrorism would be to redress the economic balance between the "haves" and the "have nots" that years of imperialism and pillaging of natural resources by the larger powers (The Turks are as guilty as anyone) has caused. But are you prepared to give up half of your belonging/savings? I think not. So there's your war.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And it's Bilderburg in Istanbul today. Anybody know where they are meeting? I assume nobody got an invite.
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: "the war on terror" Reply with quote

tvik wrote:
personally i think it's a big scam. it a code word for the clash of civilizations


Wow!

Five and a half years of events have crystalized into this diamond of conventional wisdom!
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tararu



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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was pondering this the other day. Conservatism ,for the want of a better word, seems to come in phases of a couple of decades. I think that we are entering/have entered a conservative phase.
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tvik



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

people have talked about the left-right swing that goes on from time to time.

as for bilderberg, i bet they pass the pipe around during the meetings.
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tvik wrote:
people have talked about the left-right swing that goes on from time to time.

as for bilderberg, i bet they pass the pipe around during the meetings.


It's always better to have a bit of crack to keep you going. SMOKE CRACK FOR PEACE.
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Laura777



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bilderberg meeting is in Silviri.

war on terror - Bush slogan, was his slogan for his war against the middle east i.e. muslims, which was given massive support after september 11...


also cheney his pal wanted to make more money and in turn try to control all the oil in the mid east. Because the oil in the states is vanishing rapidly.

so they and their group of pals figured the war on terror was a great way for them to dismantle the middle east as it is and create a new democratic middle east which supports their businesses ideals.


also since the war in iraq has become a quagmire of crap its now become his big crusade against islam and the war on terror.

its his way of brainwashing the american public to keep up the support for his war on terror and the war and also to make congress keep funneling money to his damned war.

I am a bit angry today so not writing clearly.
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah. Bush doesn't hate Muslims, he's into the mind control of dogmatic religions, he just wants the oil and power.
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tvik



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in canada there are posters of "bushisms" i think most people have seen some of the better one liners, like: "I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein" or "i believe the human and the fish can coexist peacefully"

it has been postulated that bush might be dislexic but another idea occured to me. he probably just hung-over every day and has a hard time getting the brain to work. it's common knowledge that he was a drunk before. a friend of mine worked in a restaurant that he went to a year before he became president but many years after he said he quit drinking. apparently he ordered 2 grey goose martinis before dinner and then moved on to wine.

the other thing about bush is that he was just a figure-head. dick cheney and rumsfeld and other noe-cons were pulling all the strings. nowdays the strings are all in a knot and the neo-cons have bailed out and left a hung-over moron with total mess
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tvik



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushism
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dmb



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The meeting was in the Ritz carlton. The area was all blocked up. apparently Kissinger gave a speech at an Akbank EGM
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Shalana



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bushisms are good. Laughing Makes one wonder how he ever graduated from the college he went to.

I�m from America {not something I admit to often these days} and I don�t know anyone that likes the President or thinks he is doing a so-so, let alone a good job. I�m counting the days left in his term.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tvik wrote:
in canada there are posters of "bushisms" i think most people have seen some of the better one liners, like: "I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein" or "i believe the human and the fish can coexist peacefully"


What makes the first one a "Bushism"? If he had his right hand cut off could he not shake with his left?

What's wrong with the second?

Sorry tvik, but if you are posting these things as if they are groundbreaking epiphanies for you then you must have been living in a cave for five years.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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