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massivegeoff



Joined: 16 Dec 2004
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Location: thailand

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:26 am    Post subject: British Council Beijing Reply with quote

any info on pay and conditions at this firm?

i was a council slave in bangkok for a year and quite enjoyed it. they had fairly good pay and conditions in thailand.

i want to work somewhere they speak mandarin and teaching IELTS...i guess i could go elsewhere.

any thoughts?
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malu



Joined: 22 Apr 2007
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Location: Sunny Java

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget BC Hong Kong. I looked into that and they were paying surprisingly little and expecting rather a lot.
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OGFT



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BC, Beijing. Low Pay.
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peepertice



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the BC does not teach English in China
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InTime



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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Location: CHINA-at-large

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the BC does not teach English in China


...which explains the low pay...

Reminds me of a Woody Allen joke
about two elder NYC Jewish ladies at a US Catskills summer resort
...complaining...

A: "...and the food here is terrible..."

B: "Yes...and such small servings..."
Laughing
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johnchina



Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: none Reply with quote

If you have a certificate (CELTA or higher) and at least three years experience post-certification, you can be an IELTS examiner at the BC, even if you live in a smaller city. They'll fly you around when they need you. If you live in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou or Chongqing, you can also do IELTS writing marking. It is EXTREMELY lucrative. Anyone who qualifies should try it. The managers there are bunch of idiots, but if you just do your marking and then go home, there's no hassle.
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mondrian



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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Location: "was that beautiful coastal city in the NE of China"

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: none Reply with quote

johnchina wrote:
If you have a certificate (CELTA or higher) and at least three years experience post-certification, you can be an IELTS examiner at the BC, even if you live in a smaller city.

You need to check on the precise academic and experience requirements
johnchina wrote:
They'll fly you around when they need you.
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Yes they will do that if you travel from one province to another. Or you bus or go by train. The different regions have different operational rules.
johnchina wrote:
If you live in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou or Chongqing, you can also do IELTS writing marking. It is EXTREMELY lucrative.

Yes!! But remember you are continually assessed and there is no guarantee of work NOR any help with your visa.
johnchina wrote:
Anyone who qualifies should try it.
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You are tested before being accepted and not everyone succeeds.
johnchina wrote:
The managers there are bunch of idiots, but if you just do your marking and then go home, there's no hassle.

Blatently untrue. There may be operational problems and difficulties but the admin. here are certainly NOT idiots!
Yes do your job quietly and it IS a fulfilling experience that broadens your stock of dinner stories. For example: while walking to lunch at one centre recently, we passed a b****k naked male student casually walking down the main campus highway.
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone I know that have worked for them, and many of them are/were well educated responsible folks have left- Many (about 60%) left due to displeasure with the BC;That's from 1998-2006(about 40-50 people)
Give them a try
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johnchina



Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 4:17 pm    Post subject: none Reply with quote

The Chinese staff (mainly doing the admin) are fine, IMHO, although many examiners disagree with that opinion. The expat managers are pretty poor quality. Always have been.

As for the idea that there's no guarantee of work, that's technically correct, but with candidate numbers high and examiner numbers relatively low, well, you do the math ... There are four day tests now, making examining pretty much a full time job with a great salary.

Visas aren't an issue. Many (if not most) examiners are on business visas and there have even been cases of examiners on tourist visas.

The continuous assessment is a bit of joke. Has any examiner been dropped for giving inaccurate scores? Out of the 200+ I've known, I can't name one.

"do your job quietly" - the most telling words in Mondrian's post! Don't worry about that! I'm keeping my head well down!

Oh, Massivegeoff, you can't teach IELTS and examine in mainland China - the BC here has a rule that you must choose one or the other. Unless you are BC manager, of course ...
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