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esglumac
Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 21 Location: United States
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 2:16 pm Post subject: Japanese Minister Hangs Himself Over Political Scandal |
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Toshikatsu Matsuoka, farm minister for Japan, attempted suicide mere hours prior before he was scheduled to face questioning. The interrogation concerned a political scandal over rigged contracts and donations. The 62-year-old minister was found unconscious and rushed to a hospital, where he died. The reports claim that the man hanged himself in his pajamas with a dog leash.
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, whose administration has fallen in the eyes of the Japanese people, was a staunch defender of Matsuoka, whose connections within the Japanese political system enable Abe�s rise through the system. Abe, who saw the deceased Matsuoka at the hospital, was visibly shaken by the scene, and said that he wanted to pray for the minister�s soul.
The scandal involved two committees, set to receive support for the electoral campaign, taking funds from businesses which then bid on public works projects dealt out by the Japanese government.
Japan has the highest suicide rates in the world, at some 30,000 a year.
any-thing to say about this???? |
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Nismo

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 520
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese Minister Hangs Himself Over Political Scandal |
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esglumac wrote: |
any-thing to say about this???? |
I guess he was guilty? |
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese Minister Hangs Himself Over Political Scandal |
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esglumac wrote: |
any-thing to say about this???? |
Only that this is a sad perpetuation of the idea that suicide is some form of "expected" behaviour in Japan, an atonement. Last year a school principal committed suicide after he had failed to stop bullying at his school which resulted in...suicide!
Whe government ministers and school principals commit suicide is it any wonder that it is an epidemic in society? |
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southofreality
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 579 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese Minister Hangs Himself Over Political Scandal |
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furiousmilksheikali wrote: |
esglumac wrote: |
any-thing to say about this???? |
Only that this is a sad perpetuation of the idea that suicide is some form of "expected" behaviour in Japan, an atonement. Last year a school principal committed suicide after he had failed to stop bullying at his school which resulted in...suicide!
Whe government ministers and school principals commit suicide is it any wonder that it is an epidemic in society? |
It's sad, but suicide has been tied in with culture here for ages. It's nothing new. Japanese people have comitted suicide in the face of failure or disgrace for centuries. Tales of samurai heroes committing seppuku are still relished by many Japanese, young and old. Some of the big military leaders of Japan who comitted suicide at the close of WWII were said to have taken the 'honorable' way out. Of course, values have changed over the years, but suicide has always been common here. |
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partialtone
Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 137 Location: CA
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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It is sad but in the case of politics I prefer this situation over free secret service protection and a monthly paycheck for, "retiring". |
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nonsmoker

Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 352 Location: Exactly here and now.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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What alarms me is Japan's declining population. I MUST do something about it. |
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Eva Pilot

Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 351 Location: Far West of the Far East
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:44 am Post subject: |
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He was the first cabinet minister to commit suicide since the war though, so it's not as if it happens every day.
I thought that the principal that committed suicide last year was principal of one of those schools that was part of the graduation credits mixup, he considered himself to blame for the students in his school not being able to graduate. |
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shuize
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 1270
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:27 am Post subject: |
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Meh. Personally, I think it's the coward's solution. But if he really wants to stamp-out early, who am I to stop him? Just one less bureaucrat's pension to fund. |
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jademonkey
Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 180
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: |
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If more politicians committed suicide, the world would be a much happier place. String the b*astards up, I say. |
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gaijin4life
Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 150 Location: Westside of the Eastside, Japan
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Japanese Minister Hangs Himself Over Political Scandal |
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furiousmilksheikali wrote: |
Last year a school principal committed suicide after he had failed to stop bullying at his school which resulted in...suicide! |
Personally, I wish schools and all associated persons would just make serious efforts to deal with the bullying problem rather than trying to pretend it isn�t a problem ..
At home many schools have an `NVP` - `non-violence policy.` Bullying and other forms of abuse (verbal; substance etc.) are unacceptable and aren�t tolerated. Now there`s an idea ..
It`s simply baffling how a country with 2nd largest economy in the world; and a leader in innovation � can`t seem to deal with school-yard bullying .. or is that won`t � Baffling.  |
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TK4Lakers

Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 159
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:39 am Post subject: |
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As shuize mentioned, this is definitely a coward's way out.
But I don't think you can really compare and connect this minister's suicide to that of Japanese history.
I actually asked some of my Japanese teachers about this, and they said that during the samurai ages, people committed suicide because they were forced to. It's kind of like, when they lost a battle, the winner would say "I win, you lose, the only way out is suicide." (to put it in very simple terms).
The minister had nobody force this suicide on him except himself, so in a way, he is a coward, and whereas people may have looked at seppuku as "honorable," I don't think anybody is applauding this minister's way of death. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, let's give the guy a break shall we? A member of my family committed suicide 12 years ago and several relatives of people I know have also taken their own lives. The reasons people do this are usually very complicated and tend to stem from more than one factor. We can't just put it down 100% to cultural factors or cowardice or whatever. It is usually a sad waste and a great loss for the people left behind. |
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nonsmoker

Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 352 Location: Exactly here and now.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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I'd rather live in a place with a high sucide rate than in one with a high homicide rate. |
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Nismo

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 520
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Apsara wrote: |
The reasons people do this are usually very complicated and tend to stem from more than one factor. |
It's not that complicated at all:
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The 62-year-old was found hanged in his Tokyo apartment hours before he was to face questions in parliament over his links to a political funding scandal.
Mr Matsuoka was embroiled in two political scandals, though he denied any wrong-doing.
He had allegedly claimed more than 28m yen ($236,600; �118,300) in utility fees at his parliamentary office, where utility costs are free.
It was also alleged that he had received electoral campaign donations from a businessman linked to a bid-rigging scandal. |
He was thieving and electioneering, and he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Full stop (in more than one way). |
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