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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: Immigration ooops! |
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Any ideas on this (carefully worded!) problem ?
My FM3 still has me registered with my previous company which I left at end of March last year. My new employer will offer me work from March 15 (!) this year. Therefore I have a gap of nearly a year "unemployed" and I won't be able to get the previous company to postdate. I am applying for change of job & FM2 (I have 5 years FM3) at the same time. What can happen, how much would be the fine, and how could I possibly legally (!) explain the gap. Of course, I don't want to defraud the government!  |
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J Sevigny
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 161
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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It all depends on what immigration office you go to, who you talk to there, and whether or not that particular clerk/agent likes the looks of you.
There was a guy here in Guadalajara who let his tourist visa expire and went to immigration a year later to clean things up. No fines, no problems and now he's legal.
But I wouldn't bet on that. |
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PlayadelSoul

Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 346 Location: Playa del Carmen
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Ouch. Good luck with that. |
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El Gallo

Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 318
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Has your FM3 expired? If not, just take it to INM with a letter from your new employer and pay 1850 pesos more for changing employers. As long as your visa has not expired, they won't worry about where you have or have not been working. They will just charge you more for changing employers with this renewal. Again, it depends on the office and the bureaucrat. Good luck. |
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Ben Round de Bloc
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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El Gallo wrote: |
As long as your visa has not expired, they won't worry about where you have or have not been working. |
Unless the former FM-3 sponsoring employer notified INM when the employee quit working there, which the employer was legally obligated to do within 30 days of the change of status. Even if INM wasn't notified, there's still about a year's gap of being in the country illegally on an expired* work visa, which would be pretty difficult for INM not to notice.
* Unless the OP got his previous company to sponsor his work visa last March and then almost immediately quit working for them.  |
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mapache

Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 202 Location: Villahermosa
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:36 am Post subject: |
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The witch I worked for and walked out on threatens her foreign teachers with the immediate deportation when they eventually all quit and takes a letter to the INM the next morning first thing.
I went to INM the next morning with my FM-3 to beat her to the punch. They looked at it and said it was good for another 4 months. At renewal, I paid the fee to change employers and had no problem. Again, it depends on the office and the person granting the renewals. Fortunately, my crazy former employer has pissed off the INM office where I live so many times that they ignore her rants and ravings. |
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Ben Round de Bloc
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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mapache wrote: |
The witch I worked for and walked out on threatens her foreign teachers with the immediate deportation when they eventually all quit and takes a letter to the INM the next morning first thing. |
As an employer who sponsors work visas, she's legally obligated to report changes in her employees' status.
Again, as you've mentioned, immigration offices don't all have the same policies and procedures. I hope newcomers get that message. When someone posts, "At the immigration office in the city where I live . . ." that does not mean it's the same at other immigration offices. |
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PlayadelSoul

Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 346 Location: Playa del Carmen
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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I normally take the baja letter to IMN the next day, as well. It is our responsibility to notify IMN, and the ex-employee will need the baja in order to change employers or leave the country. In addition, it frees up a space so that I can hire another foreigner. It is common sense to take care of it, ASAP. |
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mapache

Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 202 Location: Villahermosa
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, she has an obligation but she has 30 days and so does the teacher. To threaten teachers with immediate deportation when it is not true is vindictive and dishonest.
I don't suppose you guys do that, too. Do you? |
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PlayadelSoul

Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 346 Location: Playa del Carmen
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Normally, when someone leaves, they do so for one of two reasons. They are leaving Mexico or they are going to work somewhere else. In either case, they need the baja as soon as possible. You can't do much without it. I don't have the power to deport anyone nor is it my job to determine how long one gets to stay after their FM3 is canceled.
My job is to follow the law and protect my school. Someone running around with an FM3 that says they work here when they don't, does neither. |
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mapache

Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 202 Location: Villahermosa
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:28 am Post subject: |
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Well good for you. I guess you told me a thing or two, didn't you? |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Someone's a bit cranky this morning.  |
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PlayadelSoul

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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mapache wrote: |
Well good for you. I guess you told me a thing or two, didn't you? |
I answered your question, if that is what you mean.
Do you get paid well for playing the victim? Seems to be an ongoing gig with you. |
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mapache

Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 202 Location: Villahermosa
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Oh bless your heart, you want the last word, too. Did you take a free three week training course from my ex-wife? By the way, in your Advanced Book, Listening Exercise 2, student instructions somebody, nobody and anybody aren't adverbs. |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Back to the point....
I've found out my previous employer did the baja correctly and I have a copy of that letter and INAMI's stamped and signed reply so that bit is OK. I just have explain the year's delay.
Do you think -"I didn't know, I thought I could wait until my next renewal" - will work. ...after all, getting accurate information from immigration can be difficult at times! |
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