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basiltherat
Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 952
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:32 am Post subject: Do you keep in touch ? |
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With it being so easy to keep in touch with people via email, I am wondering whether you guys / girls try to stay in touch with previous employers.
For example, I try to send greetings - at least - at various festive times of the year; Christmas, Ied etc and I always get a reply.
One in particular keeps asking me when I might be returning and I think that's kinda cool.
Do any of you guys make an effort or is it just me ?
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:34 am Post subject: |
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I tend to keep in touch with a couple of friends & colleagues from each place that I've taught in, some more regularly than others. It's nice to see how people have branched out over the years. When I move on to a new job, I like to send postcards back to my previous school. Sometimes they generate responses and sometimes they don't.
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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I still hear once every few months from one of the other teachers I worked with in Indo back in 2003-04. Of the teachers who have come and gone here at this school in Mexico over the last three years, I still hear occasionally from two or three.
Generally, though, this is not a career for people wanting lasting friendships with co-workers. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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ls650 wrote: |
Generally, though, this is not a career for people wanting lasting friendships with co-workers. |
Right, I agree. What makes me sad is that I've lost touch with people I grew up with. THey just can't relate to my life and I can't relate to theirs. Also the silly questions, like what do you eat, how do you communicate or do they speak English? get really old really fast. |
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hlamb
Joined: 09 Dec 2003 Posts: 431 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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naturegirl321 wrote: |
Right, I agree. What makes me sad is that I've lost touch with people I grew up with. THey just can't relate to my life and I can't relate to theirs. Also the silly questions, like what do you eat, how do you communicate or do they speak English? get really old really fast. |
I agree completely. Each time I go home I see fewer people. We just have nothing to talk about anymore. Beyond the "do you remembers" the conversation has nowhere to go. I have lots of great stories but they can't relate and I am not interested in the daily humdrum of their lives. It's sad. So much for friends forever. |
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sheeba
Joined: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1123
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:30 am Post subject: |
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I used to feel that I was losing contact and feelings for people back in the UK but to be honest it's no different from when I was in the UK working . People are just boring . Even in China . Everyone I speak to becomes boring for long stints of conversation . You just have to accept that and make the best of those moments of laughter you do get. I talk briefly about China (nobody really asks me) and I don't care . I like just talking about simple stuff with old friends - like premiership football , music and I like using local accents again rather than having to adjust my speech for confused Americans, Chinese or whoever . People in the UK are sound . I can't wait to se them again. |
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phis
Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 250
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Sheeba, have you ever wondered if people are thinking the same about you and your conversation? |
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:32 am Post subject: |
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I have managed to hang onto some childhood/high school friends and friends from my life before TEFL. Not many, but I prefer quality over quantity. Yeah, our lives have taken different turns, but we still manage to find things to talk about. I have one friend in particular who I see maybe every few years (family and friends are spread out up and down the west coast, so even when I go back I don't get to see them all) and email every few months. We're still close, though. We of course reminisce about the past and talk about mutual acquaintances, but not too much. We have plenty of current topics to discuss. Our lives are very different, but we both have financial situations, relationships, etc., and we can also discuss current events in the world. Just because I have spent much of the past eight years living outside the US while he has stayed, bought a house, etc., our friendship has not faded.
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yaramaz

Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 2384 Location: Not where I was before
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: |
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I'm in touch with quite a few pre-tefl friends from home. Just because I happen to have spent most of the last decade and a bit abroad (not just teaching) doesn't mean that my life is any more exciting than theirs or that we can't possibly relate to each other- one friend is living up by the arctic circle in the Yukon in an Inuit town doing legal aid work; another is finishing her PhD in ethnomusicology; another has gone back to school at 38 to finish her uncompleted BA and has started a whole new life path in rehabilitation and care. They are really interesting people and I'm amazed by how we've all branched out in such odd and different ways from one small, rural island off the west coast of Canada. Getting married (or not), having kids (or not), settling down (or not) hasn't really affected the fact that these are smart, cool people. |
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sheeba
Joined: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1123
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:45 am Post subject: |
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To phis - on whether I've wondered if people think I am boring -
Yeah of course . I bore the pants off them, especially if I start talking about my experience abroad (I've stopped doing that now ) I don't know what makes people who have been abroad think they are some kind of exotic cultured interesting specimen . We're all inherently boring generally and have our own boring agendas . That's why wherever we are in the world we always get sloshed . It makes it a bit more exciting doesn't it? Some of my best friends are really boring and they'll say the same about me . What's new - we're still good mates . One thing I have noticed is Brits don't like to talk about their experiences much . It's more of a tacit understanding . Man that's cool . Let's just sit in front of the footy , drink 10 pints and say sweet effall. Perhaps some of you guys ( I find Americans especially) like to have something to say - like you need to talk and show everyone how interesting and humourous you can be . Not having a go at Americans ( I have some good mates who are American) but why can't people just accept they are - well - just boring!! |
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basiltherat
Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 952
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Whenever I go back to the UK and meet relatives or friends, I make a point of asking lots of questions about THEIR lives while I've been away. Although, I might find their answers particularly dull, strangely, they in turn tend to find that asking you questions about YOUR life while you've been away seems more forthcoming. While they might think you're unelaborated answers are likewise dull, at least it keeps conversation going.
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PS Actually my initial post was about whether you keep in touch with previous employers. Never mind, though. This thread is also cool. |
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Jetgirly

Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 741
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: |
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I keep in touch with my co-workers but my friendly gestures towards my former admin have been ignored. I thought we left on good terms, so I'm surprised. |
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MikeySaid

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 509 Location: Torreon, Mexico
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:29 am Post subject: |
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sheeba wrote: |
Perhaps some of you guys ( I find Americans especially) like to have something to say - like you need to talk and show everyone how interesting and humourous you can be . Not having a go at Americans ( I have some good mates who are American) but why can't people just accept they are - well - just boring!! |
There's a lot going on there that makes Americans like that....
first, in general, we like to be heard... it's kind of built in here... I think they teach it in schools or something, that everyone's voice should be heard.
second, if you've got the wanderlust and are an American... I think it requires a little more effort perhaps. Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean are the only "foreign" places we've got within a few hours, while Brits can take an EasyJet or RyanAir flight and experience a completely different culture/language in a few hours for a paltry sum. Americans who travel and get out and try to see the world are in the minority... sort of.
third, (and this is me only speaking for myself, not other yanks)... as an American... it's easy to feel judged just for being from here... and to want to differentiate yourself from the pack... it's been my observation that people are quick to assume things about you when they find out you're from the states... (for that reason I tend to specify... northern california)....many a friend of mine when traveling abroad feels the need to make it known to people what their political stance is... and that they *know* what's really going on in the US...
so yeah, some of us like to be heard, we feel like we're different from our compatriots who just stay at home and go on camping trips to the smoky mountains or to vegas for 5 days... and maybe we feel like we have to prove ourselves to our English friends (c'mon... you do kind of look down your nose at us... like we're still a colony or something!)... but once you get past all that... most of us are happy to sit down and have a couple of beers and watch a good match of whatever... |
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sheeba
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Hey Mikey . It dos not bother me . Beer or no beer (actually I think I'd prefer no beer) I'm happy to talk to meiguorens . I don't think we look down on Americans . I think deep down generally the ones I've met are nice people but perhaps trying a little too hard sometimes to prove something. I dunno . You guys are probably different depending on where you're from in America . I know some guys from the South (seem very nationalistic)who are a lot different from the Northern Americans I've met . |
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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MikeySaid wrote: |
as an American... it's easy to feel judged just for being from here... |
I agree with pretty much everything you said, but especially with this bit. I feel it too sometimes. It's sort of trendy now to bash America, and sometimes that spills over into bashing Americans. Sometimes I want people to know that I'm "different" but sometimes I really don't care. If someone is going to judge me based on where I was born then that's a person whose opinion really doesn't matter to me. I have better things to do with my time than prove my worth to people who categorically dislike me.
And getting back to the question of keeping in touch with employers--if they cross over into the "friend" category, then yes, we occasionally exchange emails with life updates. Otherwise, just when I am applying for jobs.
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