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intlduke



Joined: 13 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: applying in person Reply with quote

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mickeyrex



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After having done/been there thing in the last few months just be aware that a lot of those addresses may not pan out. Also, don't forget to check out the outlining districts (meaning other than district 1) because they're short of teachers. Cheers!
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 28 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best way to get a good and reputable teaching job is to just arrive in VN and network with FTs. Once you find few FTs in VN, you will definitely get plenty of low down on good and bad schools to work for.

Good luck.
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ble21ach



Joined: 08 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who are FTs???Thanks alot.

i'm here in VN. I'm a Vietnamese American with a degree from Cal Berkeley and am TEFL certified. Yet, I cannot find a job. I'm only interested in working at night and during the weekends. Thanks for the tip.
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ChuckECheese



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ble21ach wrote:
Who are FTs???Thanks alot.

i'm here in VN. I'm a Vietnamese American with a degree from Cal Berkeley and am TEFL certified. Yet, I cannot find a job. I'm only interested in working at night and during the weekends. Thanks for the tip.


FTs = Foreign Teachers. How long have you been in Vietnam?

Perhaps you need to read following thread regarding Vnese-American:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=48250&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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ble21ach



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been in VN for 11 days. I was interviewed by ILA but they told me I don't have enough experience. That was a total BS
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ChuckECheese



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ble21ach wrote:
I've been in VN for 11 days. I was interviewed by ILA but they told me I don't have enough experience. That was a total BS


They probably told you that because you're not a whitey. VNese think only us whities can speak and teach English.

The schools will discriminate against VKieu's but keep trying, you'll get it.

Were you interviewed by a white or Vnese person?
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ble21ach



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was interviewed by a white person at ILA. Do I go to the schools and ask for an interview? I sent alot of emails out last week, and am currently waiting for replies.
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just noel



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ble21ach wrote:
I was interviewed by a white person at ILA. Do I go to the schools and ask for an interview? I sent alot of emails out last week, and am currently waiting for replies.


You stated you have a degree from Berkely and are TEFL certified. Where is the tefl cert. from?

You are qualified enough to be hired, even if you don't have teaching experience.

ILA usually hires Uni. grads with a celta or tefl certificate for their children's program if they are under 35, but it seems almost all of their teachers in the childrens program are in their early to mid 20s.

Honestly, I will have to tell you that there is racism and discrimination here against teachers who look Asian.

Keep pounding the pavement and get back to us.

I know some Asian that have been told by school to work for less, doing the same job, because the looked Asian.

I am not saying this will apply to you, tho'
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ble21ach



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my TEFL certification at ITTT (class included theory and not practicum). If your school is looking for EFL teachers, please notify me. Thanks in advance for the kind gesture
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lost_gypsy



Joined: 09 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:23 am    Post subject: too bad about the discrimination Reply with quote

Wow, you know it really does s__k this happens. I knew this American born Chinese girl, recent grad from U. of B.C. with focus on eductaion, just a charmer! Of course she looked Chinese, but she couldn't speak five phrases. Her family had been in Canada since grandma came over with grandpa nearly 60 years ago. She said very few in the family spoke good Cantonese, except for grandma and her mother's older sister.

So here this girl was, trying to get respect and teach in Guangzhou. And all the students she came in contact with liked her, it was the darn schools! They constantly gave her trouble for her salary, saying that the school advertised "foreign teacher" and she was Chinese. What idiots! She gave up after one semester and returned to Canada, very disheartened and for the first time I think, experienced discrimination--what a paradox!

I know in GZ that people with dark skin, Chinese or otherwise are considered to be "third class". I have a friend, masters degree in education from the US, African American, clever, polite and well spoken. And he experienced a certain amount of discrimination from not only the university he worked at, but from a fair number of his students. I currently live in Hawaii and being caucasion, I am experiencing some discrimination, because the Island is largely operated in the working and professional sectors by pacific Islanders, regardless if they are from Hawaii or not, so I am getting a first hand experience in this whole issue for the first time in my life as well!

Just hope all works out for you and anyone else who doesn't "look Asian/white/etc" out there....

Cheers!
Michael
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