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Papa Bear · Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 13 Location: Ocala Florida

Hello to all, i am a newly certified( no puns please) TEFL teacher and have recieve 3 different job offers so far this month. My questions is on which school has the better reputation English First , Bonds . Or sunnys Eglish club ( a recruitrs mill) in Chengdu, my wife (chinese) will be accompanying me to which ever post accepted, any clues hints or worldly advise
Thanks to all

tw · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898

Why not tell us what each job offers, i.e. copy-and-paste the contracts sent to you in e-mail so posters here can make their own recommendations.

Papa Bear · Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 13 Location: Ocala Florida

TW the contracts are a personel thing with me and the schools as negotiated items. i mean no offence , but what i am asking is about the schools themselves. such as working conditions,resources, and general accountability isues, and such

PAzine · Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 45

EDIT: ... never mind... Laughing

clark.w.griswald · Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2056

The suitability of the school is going to be a personal thing too as everyone has different expectations. Just because someone did or did not enjoy their experience there in the past does not mean that you will or won't.

I think that what tw is suggesting is that you post the conditions of the work that have been outlined to you by the relevant schools. That way we can all comment on something concrete.

Papa Bear · Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 13 Location: Ocala Florida

Hey Clark i guess i miss understood TW's intentions.

English first has offered me
5000 rbm a month to start for first 3 months, next 3 months 5500rbm last 6 months 6000 rmb
All visa and work permits paid, flight remimbursment and airport pickup
Fully furnished apt. possibly shared( need to work on this as my wife will accomany me)
up to a 40 hr week 20 ach 20 planning and teacher development hours. 2 consecuetive days off a week,

Bond has offered

remuneration package would include: a monthly salary of RMB5,000 Yuan,
plus
free accommodation ( fully-furnished apartment unit or house ),
utilities
allowance, meals allowance, reimbursement for airfare and visa fees as
per
contract, completion bonus and paid holidays. We offer Chinese
language, Tai
Ji ( martial arts ), Chinese cuisine and other cultural lessons on a
regular
basis.
first month only 4500 to make sure i am up to snuff, afterwards 5000, but they do require a 2 hour teaching demonstration upon arrival.
with no mention in first offering on number of hours ach or total per week
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HunanForeignGuy · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 989 Location: Shanghai, PRC

Franly, these are both lowfall offers.

I have friends in Chengdu who are easily making RMB 7000 + per month with better conditions.

Shared housing? Never....40 hours per week for RMB 5000 a month? You can get uni or middle school jobs in Chengdu for much more money that that with private housing and 20 hours per week.

Why do you want to work in language mills such as those, of all things? Do a search on this site for both schools and I am sure that you will be surprised at what you read.

If you look on www.eslteachersboard.com under the China section, you will find a Chengdu recruiter who is an Australian who has established himself quite well in the local market and might be able to find you a much, much better job than either of these.

One needs to exercise severe caution with language mills in China; more often than not, foreign teachers come up on the loosing end (as they do sometimes in public schools, too). One needs to exercise extreme severe caution with the more notorious of the language mills...

If you have a university degree and at least two years of experience, somewhere, somehow, contact the Australian guy.

All the best,

HFG

tw · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898

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Papa Bear · Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 13 Location: Ocala Florida

Well Mr. Foreigndevil

Thank you for your kind words but take into account if you will your own statement in itself.

deputamadre · Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Posts: 53

Papa Bear, don't try to correct others when you clearly have the most mistakes of anyone on this thread.

Papa Bear · Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 13 Location: Ocala Florida

Yes Sir i am qualified to teach english, and you are correct on my mistakes. i had a super rough and long day at work when i made the original posting.

Spell checking statement is herby withdrawn.

I have been corrected

Henry_Cowell · Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley

laodeng · Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 481

I think Papa Bear will fit right in.

jeffinflorida · Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject:

OK Children...

OP good luck on your search.

Salary is important and while many will work for low wages you should look for something that pays "scale" and a livable wage without becomeing an FT SLAVE to a 40 hour week.

If you want to work 40 hour weeks that is great but make sure you are paid for this.

A LOW 40 hour wage is 8000... but try and get a job that give you 20 hours a week and an apartment and some travel money as well as airfare. Once you find a suitable job then head out and look for some pt jobs that pay you cash on the spot...

Don't make a too quick decision too accept a job and search lots of different job sites for a better choice. This is a good time to find the right poisition.

And btw, I don't use a spell checker...