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Any advice re rent? not sure on how we can handle this...

 
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elliewelliesj



Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Any advice re rent? not sure on how we can handle this... Reply with quote

just wanted to ask the advice of any of you old hands who seem to know the deal and laws much better than me! My school pays me and my boyfriend a montly salary, from which our rent is deducted.
The last 2 months they forgot to deduct it. But we didnt notice, we get travel pay and so the total amount always changes a bit.
Anyhow, now they have realised their error but want it back. I do understand and I am really not trying to dodge the rent - but all the past few month's money we have spent or sent home to pay off debts. So we dont have any to spare - so am a bit worried that we might be stuck in the next few months.
Does anyone know what we can do? It was their error.... but dont want to get into a big fuss either!
Thank you so much for your advice.
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azarashi sushi



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But we didnt notice, we get travel pay and so the total amount always changes a bit.


The amount changes by about 70 000 yen a month??????

I find it hard to believe you didn't notice.

Pay them the money you owe them.
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Yawarakaijin



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have enough time on your contract aske them to balance it out over the year. Explain you sent all the money home and that you really cant afford to take a big hit all at once. I'm sure they would understand.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the above (including the astonishment that your salary varies by such a huge amount).

Explain the situation, apologize for not noticing it (YES, YOU apologize. You are partly at fault here.) Then work out an arrangement. Either take it out in further increments from future paychecks, or find the money somehow and pay it back. I suspect they'll go for the former.
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elliewelliesj



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I guess you are right...the reason it isnt such a dramatic difference is the fact that the rent is split between us so 2 paychecks..... plus different bills go out from our checks too, and they have been higher than they should be,(double in fact but the office is sorting that out) so it all kind of balanced out.... in effect we paid the rent via extra bills!
But thanks for the advice, i hope we can arrange to pay it back in small amounts over time. We are here for a while yet, so fingers crossed it will all be ok. I was worried that they might suddenly ask for it all back in one go and leave us stuck.
But thanks for the comments, just wanted to run it by more experienced people.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elliewelliesj wrote:

But thanks for the advice, i hope we can arrange to pay it back in small amounts over time. We are here for a while yet, so fingers crossed it will all be ok. I was worried that they might suddenly ask for it all back in one go and leave us stuck.
Stuck in what sense? If you literally don't have the money, what can they do?

As for your explanation below, maybe I haven't had enough caffeine this morning, but I have no idea what you are talking about. Even half of 70,000 yen should be a noticeable expense for one person!
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Yes I guess you are right...the reason it isnt such a dramatic difference is the fact that the rent is split between us so 2 paychecks..... plus different bills go out from our checks too, and they have been higher than they should be,(double in fact but the office is sorting that out) so it all kind of balanced out.... in effect we paid the rent via extra bills!
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I can sorta relate... A similar thing happened to us when we changed banks and the landlady informed us she hadn't received our rent for two months running because of a furikomi error. We didn't notice either -- mainly because we constantly had other large sums of money going both in and out of the account and we were not using an effective budgeting system. After that we started using a new budgeting system so that this kind of mistake couldn't happen... And it has been alright since then.

In any case, to solve our problem, we just proposed to the landlady that we pay our regular rent on time, but on top of that, pay an extra half-month's rent... So that way she'd get her back rent within 4 months. No problem. She was totally cool with that and everything was resolved.
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elliewelliesj



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes we are now being extra good on our money! plus it was our first few months pay checks -we are newbies so just hadnt really thought things through! or what to expect... anyway it looks like we are going to be able to pay it over a few months. Thanks
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craven



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar situation with the direct debit for my parking space...because it was a smaller amount (about Y5000/month), I didn't notice that it wasn't coming out, and my fudosan were too nervous to say anything...for almost a year!! Needless to say, I didn't want to take a Y55000 hit all at once, so I talked to them and worked out a payment schedule. Folks are usually pretty nice about that, as long as you're up front with them.
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