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BOBBYSUE



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: libya on 100k USD Reply with quote

hi everyone

i've been offered a post in tripoli which is about 100,000 US dollars per annum plus healthcare, several return flights home per year, accommodation in "a decent villa" etc etc

i'd be very grateful if anyone living there could give me their opinion as to whether it is a good offer, what other contractual things I should look out for /insist on, what a decent villa means in tripoli, etc etc

thank you so much

BS
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WD40



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AS you will be in Tripoli, you will get limited number of trips home. However, the cost of living is next to nothing especially if you convert US dollars into dinars on the black market - do not rely on the official bank rate which is a complete reverse of the black market rate. Libyans are nice people to teach but the political situation heeds caution and common sense. You are likely to be teaching KET, PET, FCE level students. They normally work hard at their English.

It is a very good offer
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abinara



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: $100k pa Reply with quote

Dear BobbySue

Are you takin' the mick , or what?
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BOBBYSUE



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi again

thanks for your responses

does anyone have any idea what a decent villa would mean? do they generally have a/c, swimming pools and internet connection, or any of those??

many thanks

BS


ps not taking the mick...I presume that means the salary is good?
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abinara



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:56 am    Post subject: Libya $100k Reply with quote

A few years ago i was teaching General English in the desert for a Libyan oil company....if they had been paying me anywhere close to $100k pa i would still be doing it.

I didn't get to spend much time in Tripoli....but the bloke from the contractor company who liaised with the oil company lived in a very nice villa in a beach front area...not open to locals....i don't think he had a pool....but the Med. was virtually on his doorstep.

Internet shouldn't be a problem....Tripoli has Internet cafes.

You must be higher up the educational food-chain than i will ever be ...most likely...

Maybe i will be applying to you for a job some day.

All the best in Tripoli.
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

USD 100,000 for a teaching position in any Arab country is not possible, least of all in Libya, for a new teaching post.

It just might be possible to make that much perhaps in the Gulf if one had a PhD in a desired field (Industrial Eng, Petroleum Eng, etc) and one had been teaching in the same university for a couple of decades.

But, to be fair, if you look carefully, BOBBYSUE never said he would be teaching.
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007



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some facts about Libya�s Colonel Kaddafi:

1. The internet is censored and controlled by the Intelligence secret Police
2. To buy a computer and a printer you need to apply for a special permission and clearance!
3. The villas in Tripoli are big, some have air-conditioning, others not.
4. Most of the villas have no swimming pool.
5. Food is cheap.
6. In your institution you will be watched by a security service all the time.
8. Last thing: They say that it is easy to enter Libya, but difficult to get out!
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BOBBYSUE



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks again everyone

the post is in management hence the higher salary.

surfing the net one can find some pretty harrowing stories about Tripoli, so I'd be really interested to hear from someone living there now:

it seems like everyone who lives in tripoli is affected by a car accident in some way. is this true, and is there any way to avoid it?

i've heard that burglaries of ex pat villas and muggings of expats is on the rise...does it seem this way from the point of view of someone living there?

finally, i've heard there are some compound type ex pat villages which i assume have communal pool etc....what are they like and do you know where i can look up any info about them?

thanks again and all the best

BS
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Big brother is watching you Reply with quote

007, government spooks in the so-called democracies also monitor internet usage. Be careful which sites you look at, and avoid using words such as "bomb" and "Osama" in your emails!
BS, your own government website will provide useful up-to-date information for travellers. The US govt site is www.travel.state.gov. For the UK govt, see www.fco.gov.uk/travel
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WD40



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to walk in Tripoli late at night never had any trouble
I was offered a teaching post this year for 40 sterling so 100,000$ is not unbelievable for a teaching post
there are some compounds though they are very much in demand
To find out about villas use your local contact - I imagine you will stay in a hotel while looking for a villa
It is easy to come and go from Libya - there is just a lot of red tape
Treat it like any other Arab country in terms of what is or not is legal
The security services monitor the locals more than the expats (paranoa on the part of expats)
There are some spectacular sights and scenery
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007



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BOBBYSUE wrote:
it seems like everyone who lives in tripoli is affected by a car accident in some way. is this true, and is there any way to avoid it?

You cannot avoid car accident in Libya. They do not drive according to a proper highway code. You have to use your imagination and keep your hazard perception level always in "RED and DANGER", and look out for crossing camels outside Tripoli.

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i've heard that burglaries of ex pat villas and muggings of expats is on the rise...does it seem this way from the point of view of someone living there?

Tripoli is full of illegal immigrants from other African countries, and they use Tripoli as a transit for Italy and Malta for illegal immigration. Some of them are involved in theft, burglaries, and criminal actions. It seems Gaddafi is asking the European to lift the embargo on radars, helicopters and binoculars, to be used for Libyan coastal surveillance! .

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007, government spooks in the so-called democracies also monitor internet usage.

Yes, the so-called democracies like Uk and USA monitor the internet usage, but if you criticize uncle Sam or uncle Tony in your emails or in forums, you will not be arrested. Whereas in Libya if you criticize Colonel Gaddafi, definitely you will be put in that black box if caught!

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Be careful which sites you look at, and avoid using words such as "bomb" and "Osama" in your emails!

Using words �bomb� or �Osama� in emails is not an offence.
The word �Osama� is an Arabic name, and is used by thousands, if not millions, of Muslim men.
So, don�t confuse the general word �Osama� with �Osama Bin Landen�, there is a big difference between the two.


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The security services monitor the locals more than the expats (paranoa on the part of expats)

I worked in Libya, and was monitored by the security service. In addition, some Libyan students are members of the Revolutionary Cells of colonel Gaddafi, and their duties is to watch and spy on other students and staff members (locals and foreigners).
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sw



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

100k - Paleeeezzzzz Rolling Eyes
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: Confusion Reply with quote

Time to get some glasses, 007. I did not say it was an offence to use the words "bomb" or "Osama", nor was I confusing Mr Bin Laden (not "Landen") with anyone. The simple fact is that he is the most famous (infamous) Osama in the world by far.
The software used by Spooks to monitor internet traffic is programmed to pick up key words. Obviously any conspirator daft enough to include the words "bomb" and "Osama" in their emails would be inviting arrest, hence the exclamation mark in my original posting (I'm rather fond of irony).
The western democracies deal more discreetly with troublesome radicals, for example by impeding their careers (blacklisting), arranging fatal "accidents" or assisting them (Hem!) to commit suicide.
Wherever you are in the world, Big Brother is just around the corner.
Now, just to be pedantic: you should have said "car accidents" in the plural, not singular. Likewise "duties are" is correct, not "duties is". Theft and burglary are criminal actions; your use of "and" was unnecessary.
"UK" and "USA" should be preceeded by the definite article ("The"). The K in UK is a capital letter. "The European" does not exist. Presumably you meant "The European Union".
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:41 am    Post subject: Hu's in charge around here? Reply with quote

Whoever is in charge of China? No, his name's Hu, Hu Jintao. Laughing
007, I said OBL was the most infamous Osama, not the most infamous person. There is a difference - unless of course "Osama" means "person". You really must improve your reading comprehension.
Goodbye, Meester Bond!
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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Hu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU_aw3SCUV8

basil
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