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How many career TEFLers out there?

 
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How many years do you plan to teach EFL overseas?
Less than a year
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
1-5 years
23%
 23%  [ 6 ]
5-10 years
15%
 15%  [ 4 ]
More than 10 years
61%
 61%  [ 16 ]
Total Votes : 26

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jpvanderwerf2001



Joined: 02 Oct 2003
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Location: New York

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:46 am    Post subject: How many career TEFLers out there? Reply with quote

william wallace's thread about the history had me wondering just how many "career" overseas TEFLers there are. I'm talking people who plan to teach EFL overseas for a better part of their adult lives (10-plus years might be a good starting point).

I'm going on my eighth year, and have no intention of changing careers, or moving, in the foreseeable future.
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tedkarma



Joined: 17 May 2004
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Location: The World is my Oyster

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm one. Started in 1992, taught in four countries - semi-retired in 2006 - about 15 years total. Great career!
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hollysuel



Joined: 07 Oct 2007
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Location: Connecticut, USA

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1994-1996 Hogwans in Korea (was planning on returning to the corporate environment, but after one year the teaching bug caught me)

1996-1998 got my MA TESOL in the states and taught in an IEP

1998-present Teaching in Finland--came for a nine month contract and am still here...don't plan on leaving the profession any time soon! Very Happy
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denise



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
Posts: 3419
Location: finally home-ish

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been in this field for just about 8 years, but two of those were back home getting an MA. I do plan to do it for a while to come, but I'd like to move back to the US in another couple of years and teach there.

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John Hall



Joined: 16 Mar 2004
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Location: San Jose, Costa Rica

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have already done ten years. But I don't see myself as an "overseas" TEFLer any more. I have been in Costa Rica for seven years now, and for me it is now my home! I am not planning on going anywhere else!

Pura Vida! Very Happy
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started in 1995.

Like John Hall, I consider myself an immigrant. Mexico is my home now. Even if I did leave Mexico for a couple of years, I'd come back to Mexico, not back to the US.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your poll is showing a very misleading result, because most people who are not career EFL teachers and yet are on this board aren't likely going to click a thread asking if they are a career EFL teacher? "Career EFL teacher? Nope. Not me, next thread!"

The example was just an example! I am a career English teacher, and I plan on being in Japan until for whatever reason I have no job, or the only jobs I can get are really, really crap. Then I would go to another country, but probably not back to Canada, or else I'd be back in Canada for like a year, tops- teaching ESL, getting my pension refund from Japan, maybe studying a bit of the language of the next country I would be heading to, I, so I didn't arrive totally helpless.
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soapdodger



Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did my first EFL class in Spain in 1983, and apart from a few forays into other areas, it has been my main source of income ever since. Having a foreign wife and 2 kids and the UK being so far down the toilet it's never going to come back it looks like staying that way for the forseeable future, although I have an eye out permanently for anything more interesting. I would never call it a career. At one stage in life it was a convenient means to get around and see the world, then it became a means to support a family simply because there was and is nothing much else on offer to a foreigner where I am. I'm not unsatisfied with it, it gives a higher than average salary, hours that allow more of a life than most people get, and I meet (mostly) interesting people, but it has its limits like anything else.
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gaijinalways



Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

soapdodger posted
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I would never call it a career. At one stage in life it was a convenient means to get around and see the world, then it became a means to support a family simply because there was and is nothing much else on offer to a foreigner where I am.



Since you don't call it a career, what do you call it?

I've been doing since '92. This is the third country I've been in, and there are days I consider something else, but I enjoy the holidays I get. I'm sure I could make comparable money in the US, but we'll move when we're ready as we have several things to tie up here. According to my wife's calculations, that could be a few years, or when I am ready to retire!
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cspitzig



Joined: 01 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
I think your poll is showing a very misleading result, because most people who are not career EFL teachers and yet are on this board aren't likely going to click a thread asking if they are a career EFL teacher? "Career EFL teacher? Nope. Not me, next thread!"
That was the case for me. I read the topic because I am generally finding out about the field. I've done zero TEFL. I didn't feel the topic was directed toward me, so didn't pick the "less than a year" option.
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soapdodger



Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear, whatever I post there's always either gaijinalways or his sidekick fluffyhamster like the Beavis and Butthead of the Far East, in for a personal swipe.
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coffeedrinker



Joined: 30 Jul 2006
Posts: 149

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would also be interesting to find out how many career teachers started out with that in mind.

I would guess many didn't - they just did the job and came to like it, and then went on to get further training.

Meaning that some who don't think they are career teachers now may turn out to be.
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fluffyhamster



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd hardly call gaijinalways' post above a "personal swipe". soapydodger - if anything, he came to your "defence" before ("Fluffy, soapdodger has his moments of rationality", bit of a back-handed compliment though I know LOL); so surely his question deserves an answer and isn't really that out of line (I'll answer it for you though if you like: ELT is simply a way of paying the bills until you decide what else you could do). As for me, I've only responded to a couple of your posts in total ("always"?!), and certainly wouldn't have bothered responding here if you hadn't mentioned me.
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naturegirl321



Joined: 04 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a career for me. I'm 25 and doing it full time for five years.
Been in Peru for about 3.5 years and will become a citizen next year. Now I'm in Korea taking a bit of a break from Lima. I like teaching English, though I'd like to get more into management.
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 2583
Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coffeedrinker wrote:
It would also be interesting to find out how many career teachers started out with that in mind.

I would guess many didn't - they just did the job and came to like it, and then went on to get further training.

Meaning that some who don't think they are career teachers now may turn out to be.


Count me as one didn't enter the field intending to make a career out of it.
But I found I really enjoyed it and in spite of what others will say, it is a field with a lot of variety and a lot of ways to develop/build it into a career.
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