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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: Top 10 Misconceptions about Mexico/Mexicans |
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I don't have 10, but maybe we can come up with a list.
One of the top misconceptions I had about Mexico, and perhaps picked up from US pop culture, is that Mexicans are lazy. I've met some huevones but for the most part, I've been impressed by how hard-working people are, and how much pride they put into work. |
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john_n_carolina

Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 700 Location: n. carolina
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Top 10 Misconceptions about Mexico/Mexicans |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
is that Mexicans are lazy.
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....not here in Maine. they're well-respected for their hard work. in one day, they can make 100 wreaths, whereas an American, maybe 20.
also, have an organic-farm friend who contracts them via H2b visas. she says they put you to shame. start at 5AM and go until 7, 8PM no problem. don't talk, don't waste time, and very organized.
maybe that's just the migrants im talking about. not sure about inner-city LA Mexicans.... |
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GueroPaz
Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 216 Location: Thailand or Mexico
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Generally, Mexicans are hard workers. Those who migrate to the USA or Canada are especially motivated, and work even harder. My old houseboy migrated from Honduras through Central America to Chiapas, paused for a year or two, and continued on to Houston. The lure of high wages and white skinned women kept him moving north. |
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notamiss

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 908 Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: |
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When I read the U.S. discourse on Mexicans, I feel as though most of it almost completely ignores the fact that there are Mexicans, a Mexican culture, and a whole country of Mexico that exist outside the United States.
This one seems to be held as much by Mexicans (in the U.S.) as by others. All Mexicans are brown. Everyone who is not Mexican is white.  |
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john_n_carolina

Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 700 Location: n. carolina
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:37 am Post subject: |
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notamiss wrote: |
Everyone who is not Mexican is white. |
...think GueroPaz was referring to the typical tall, blonde-hair, blue-eyed farm girl of the MidWestern plains?? or a South Carolina charmer |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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There is hot sunny beach weather all the time in all of the country!
When I've returned to the US for a visit in the past, people often say to me, "well you're not very tan."  |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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MELEE wrote: |
There is hot sunny beach weather all the time in all of the country!
When I've returned to the US for a visit in the past, people often say to me, "well you're not very tan."  |
That's one I get all the time, especially from people whose whole idea of Mexico is Canc�n, from experience or p.r. from the Mexican tourist industry. When I tell people I'm moving to Mexico, they assume it will be hot all the time. Then I launch into my three-minute Mexican geography lesson about how altitude influences the climate here, much more than latitude. |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Coming from Europe:
...that Mexico is, as a latin country, in South America, and that N. America stops at the US border (Central America doesn't exist!)
Proof? I went to the Robbie Williamd concert at the Foro Sol, and he said "I hope to come back to S. American very soon"
So? what's that to us?
Footnote: It is said that around 95% of Mexico is in N. America, and that anything East of the Strait of Tehuantepec is in Central America for geographical (look at the map!) and cultural (Mayan) reasons...
Discuss.  |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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I've been impressed by how hard-working people are, and how much pride they put into work. |
Doesn't always show in the quality of the work! Before taking delivery of our supposedly "departamento de lujo", we gave the constructors a list filling 3 sides of A4 paper of things to be fixed. One thing was "unfixable", one of the joins of the walls in an alcove wasn't vertical!
Too lazy of the foreman to do regulars checks?
Goes back to the "simple things made complicated" thread I think. Most Mexicans don't get - "don't work hard, work smart!" |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Top 10 Misconceptions about Mexico/Mexicans |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
I've met some huevones |
So have I. I can't work out the laziness thing though. All the Mexicans I know that work or study complain they have too much work - are they really that overworked or just too lazy to do it? I also see that they have no idea of time management, wasting hours each day saying hello and making small talk. I know it's part of the culture but it ain't productive.
There are also far too many words in Mexican Spanish to talk about laziness: huevonear, dominguear, flojear, echar relajo, echarse la hueva to name a few. |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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I think another problem is that they are creatures of habit as well. To change a routine, skip a lunch break, eat a big meal in the evening etc doesn't come into the equation. |
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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I think that the Mexican immigrants in the US are especially motivated to work. They have come a long ways, usually by crossing the border illegally, avoiding the border patrol, paying off a smuggler etc... Coming back to Mexico is something that they often wait years to do, after having saved money or achieved a financial goal.
Mexicans here have explained to me that they are more willing to work a manual labor job or clean toilets all day or flip burgers while working in the US for US wages. the same people would never do such work here in Mexico, because its "beneath" them.
I don't think that people here are any harder working than other people. Its a matter of incentive. As long as the corruption and low wages exist here and the safety valve of illegal migration and the remittances keep coming back to Mexico the Federal Mexican government and the upper class are never going to change a thing. Americans won't work jobs that require hard work and low pay while there are those who are willing to come from other countries and take such work. If fast food jobs paid $15.00 an hour (like they did in New Orleans after Katrina) than Americans would have no problem taking those jobs. And if Mexico provided for its citizens instead of increasing corruption and the profits for a few, Mexicans would stay here and work to improve Mexico.
American businesses like to have cheap labor and an entire under class that are oppressed and abused right in the US. Nothing like being able to say "Made with pride in the USA" with the sweat and hard work of underpaid, and oft abused migrant workers, Mexican and otherwise. |
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Oh...yeah. Some other misconceptions about Mexico.
1. Mexico is incredibly dangeorous. Kidnapping occurs all the time.
2. There are a lot of street gang members in Mexico (like in Los Angeles).
3. Mexicans consume a lot of drugs because so many are shipped to the US from Mexico.
4. Cinco de Mayo is Mexican independence day.
5. Everyone takes a siesta in the afternoon.
6. All Mexicans are brown.
7. All Mexicans are poor (except the drug traffickers).
8. Mexicans still ride burros (seriously).
9. All Mexicans are Catholic.
10. All Mexicans love hot sauce, salsa and hot food.
11. Burritos are Mexican cuisine.
12. Mexico doesn't have a functioning legal system. |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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I was doing an adjective exercise once, which involved finding a different adjective to describe people from various countries. British (cold) , Australians (vulgar), Americans (superficial)...(totally un-PC I know, but it wasn't mine, it was in a book). The student was a very educated person (Doctorate in Mathematics) and I asked him, "What about Mexicans?"
.... "Lazy!" |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Phil_K wrote: |
"What about Mexicans?"
.... "Lazy!" |
I did the exact same exercise with a class yesterday - lazy was the third adjective out after friendly and corrupt. |
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