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brasscat
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 245 Location: Farpoint Mindstation
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject: University of Hail |
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Guess who is operating their own recruiting company, because no one will go to Hail?
Tubla, Inc. is the name and UOH owns it.
Guess who has welched on paying Al-Falak for 5 months, their primary referal place for new teachers?
Of course it is UOH.
Payday was June 5th for Al-Falak employees, guess who won't be paid until the 17th?
Al-Falak teachers at UOH.
Guess who has their male teachers dressing weird in order to video tape lessons for the women's school?
UOH! Why? Most of the woment teachers have quit.
"The road to Hail is paved with pretensions"
Sayings of Chaircat Meow
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cassava
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 175
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Check your facts very carefully, brasscat. I strongly suspect that the company to which you are referring is owned by an individual who was once closely associated with the University of Hail. I doubt that KFUPM, which still maintains some residual control over the financial affairs of UOH, would allow the latter to own a recruiting company.
Furthermore, if teachers are unwilling to go to Hail when Al-Falak is the recruiter, why would a new company, lacking experience in recruiting faculty, be more successful than its predecessor? |
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brasscat
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 245 Location: Farpoint Mindstation
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:09 am Post subject: Info Origin |
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The subject of the new recruiting company came-up in a faculty meeting.
True, it does seem odd KFUPM hasn't weighed in yet.
UOH, however publicly says it is now independant of KFUPM. Again, it does not explain where the main part of the operating funds are coming from.
I am awaiting a reply from an Al-Falak repesentative. I did ask about the status of current contract teachers.
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Bebsi
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 958
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:30 am Post subject: Hail sees 'er...or rather, thinks it does!! |
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Guess who has their male teachers dressing weird in order to video tape lessons for the women's school? |
Wow, I thought I'd heard it all in relation to KSA, but this is indeed a wonderful story. From what I know of Hail, I'm not in the slightest bit surprised.
Yes, I heard that AF actually got very badly screwed.
Does the main person behind the new company have an internet university based in Switzerland by any chance? If so, he is well-qualified, having a PhD from his own establishment, I believe. |
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brasscat
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 245 Location: Farpoint Mindstation
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: New Company |
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Nothing was discussed at the facuty meeting concerning the details of ownership. This has been a common hallway question for the last week.
Situation now is; no pay, who is returning, and when are you leaving?
The post final environment is very negative.
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trapezius

Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 1670 Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Guess who has their male teachers dressing weird in order to video tape lessons for the women's school? |
What do you mean by dressing "weird"? If you mean that people had to dress up a bit, and were not allowed to wear tracksuit bottoms, rag-like tshirts, and open-face sandals (which some faculty at UOH *do* wear in class), then that's a good thing. |
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brasscat
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 245 Location: Farpoint Mindstation
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: Weird dress |
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Yes, I am aware of the somewhat odd dress in the class room. But that isn't comparitively weird, just sloppy.
Weird meaning, somewhat like a native dressed female, as in head covering.
Hey, I didn't volunteer for the videos, not in my contract.
When in Hail, the unusual is normal, weird is just entertainment.
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Bebsi
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 958
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Retribution would surely be meted out to the culprits, as this is a serious offence in KSA.
Hmmm...an interesting clause in the contract:
"the contractor hereby agrees to carry out all duties assigned by the employer to him, including...
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(iii) the donning and wearing of female attire in the classroom, for the purposes of gender misrepresentation to the students of the Women's Campus of the said employer's educational institution, or for other purposes designated by the employer, and he shall not object in any way to such investment of said attire;
(iv) in the event that the said misrepresentation be discovered and revealed and the laws, customs and traditions of Saudi Arabia be perceived to have been breached and/or violated, then notwithstanding Art. 7 hereof which states that the contractor shall obey, honour and respect the said laws, customs and traditions, the Director of the English Language Centre at the employer's place of work or such other persons invested with such authority, shall be held liable for the said breach and/or violation and shall fully indemnify the contractor and, where applicable all third parties, in respect of said breach and/or violation and of any any penalties, liabilities, retributions and/or other losses arising from the said unlawful actions;
(v) in the event of an action as described in subsection (iv) above, the said Director of ELC in the course of his assuming full liability and responsibility, shall be forcibly invested of the conventional female attire as is in keeping with the laws, customs and traditions of Saudi Arabia, with the exception that his face shall be exposed, and shall be bound to the village stocks or equivalent thereof, where he shall have wet and soiled female undergarments and accessories thrown at him for a period of a full Hejira year, and shall have the full facts (and much more) of his punishment conveyed in the printed media such as the Sun, the News of the World and orther organs of print in the UK and worldwide." |
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trapezius

Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 1670 Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Weird meaning, somewhat like a native dressed female, as in head covering. |
I don't get this. Are you saying that MALE teaching staff were made to cover their heads during class because they were being videotaped for the female students?
If so, that doesn't make sense to me, because whether you look at the religion or the culture of the country, it is the females who have to cover their heads infront of stranger males, and definitely not in the opposite direction.
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Bebsi
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 958
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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I suspect that Brasscat is saying that because of a severe shortage of female teachers in the Women's campus, male teachers are being asked to do videotaped or videoconferenced lectures for the female students, and are required to wear female garb to pretend to be of that gender.
However, that wouldn't make sense, because even in KSA it is perfectly acceptable for men to appear to women on video, so why dress them up to pretend otherwise?
Unless...and this would be very serious...they were being sent over to the Women's college to teach in classrooms there. It would also be extremely risky; the girls would easily figure out the ruse, and any man being caught masquerading as a woman and thus gaining entry to female-only places, would face very severe punishment. As I had suggested in my earlier less-than-serious posting, any management member ordering a teacher to do this would also face severe punishment...much worse than the village stocks in fact!! |
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brasscat
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 245 Location: Farpoint Mindstation
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: Acute Shotage of Women Teachers |
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Yes, UOH is indeed in the throes of a major female teacher depletion.
From Jan. 2007 til now, 18 out of 24 females have left. Including 2 directors.
Hail joke: Will the last person to leave kindly take down Stan's posters. Reason, someone might make a mistake and learn something.
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Bebsi
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 958
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject: Hail sees'er...or used to see her? |
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Hail hath no fury like a woman scorned?
Hail, the land of sunny Smails?
I am given to understand that things move very slowly there...at a Smail's pace in fact!!
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brasscat
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 245 Location: Farpoint Mindstation
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: Slow Movers |
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Yes, indeed the biology of the Desert Smail is remarkable.
Totally indigestable to any thinking creature, it is left to its daily migration between old hell and new hell. In recent times however, it has been observed residing in fem-hell.
Finals, the word alone evokes at time of total kaos and confusion.
Of course at UOH it is a test of the Shabobs and their wiley skills at cheating.
What happens when a final exam gets compromised?
At good old hell, it means a retest of the final, complete with a student riot to make life livelly.
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Balzac

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 266
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: University of Hail |
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brasscat wrote: |
Guess who is operating their own recruiting company, because no one will go to Hail? |
Well then that might explain why they [University of Hail] called me up when I had not only not applied, but had not therefore agreed to an interview either.
When I informed them during the interview that I hadn't made an application nor had I confirmed a date/time for it, they went ahead and asked me a bundle of quickfire non stop questions anyway. This went on for 40 minutes, me being passed from any one of three interviewers at lightning speed! I kid you not!
Can't help wondering where they got my information from. Is it customary for universities to share information about potential recruits?
I got the result from them about a week later which was incidentally sent to not only me, but the three other unlucky (or lucky?) candidates who also failed as it had their email addresses in clear view for me to see which I thought a bit unprofessional.
Based on this [non] interview, I don't think I'll ever be actually trying to get an interview there in the future! The place reaked of unprofessionalism from beginning to end.
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: University of Hail |
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Balzac wrote: |
Can't help wondering where they got my information from. Is it customary for universities to share information about potential recruits?p |
In KSA there is no �Freedom of Information Act�, so your personal information are open to anybody, regardless if you agree or not. |
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