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lifestream



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject: TEFL Course in Foreign Countries Reply with quote

I was thinking of taking a TEFL course in a foreign country. I've narrowed my list down to roughly two places: Czech Republic (or other analogous E. European country) and Korea. I plan on teaching in one country for a year then follow up with another country for a year.

I know many South Korean job postings seem to require just a BA degree, however would it be necessary to still hold a CELTA?

I was thinking I could teach in S.Korea for a while, save up some money then go to the Czech Republic and take a local TEFL course with the money I saved up, making it easier for me to land a job in CZ. If not I will just go to CZ from the get go.


My question is what should I look for in foreign TEFL programs?

http://www.caledonianschool.com/html/index.php?s1=1&s2=8&s3=0&s4=0&s5=0&s6=0

I found this in the ESL job posting forums. How would I know if this is reputable/credible?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caledonian's reputable.
Basic newbie courses in Prague are all 100+ hours on-site, including at least 6 hours of practice teaching with real students. I think all the courses currenly on offer in Prague meet this minimum standard, which is also the standard for decent private language schools in most parts of the world.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the Boland course www.boland-czech.com in Brno about five years ago and was satisfied with the course. YOu'll get grammar training, ideas about how to teach vocab, role-plays games, how to find a job. Also they're got about 140 hours plus 10+ of teaching real students, so it's more than the average course. Plus the owner, Katie, an American has been there for years and how lots of connections with local schools and abroad. She's opened a school in China as well.

No matter what course you choose, be sure to ask to talk to their former graduates, or do a search here on the job forum and the teacher training forum.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be harder for you if you teach before you take your course, because on the course your experience might not help you. You'll have to forget it and just do what the instructors tell you to do.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the teflwatch website Caledonia has a bad rating. Only one person rated it poorly but a poor rating is a poor rating coming from a graduate.

I also looked into Boland, Nature Girl. I noticed you wrote about it before in other threads and they seem very reputable. I sent them an e-mail requesting more information and they responded very promptly.

One thing I did notice on whichcourse.com is that Boland offers an "International TEFL Diploma" whereas most others offer an "Internationally recognized TEFL Certificate." Are there any major differences between these?

And who knows, if I like the experience I may try to stay. I'm majoring in global political studies Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifestream wrote:
I also looked into Boland, Nature Girl. I noticed you wrote about it before in other threads and they seem very reputable. I sent them an e-mail requesting more information and they responded very promptly.
One thing I did notice on whichcourse.com is that Boland offers an "International TEFL Diploma" whereas most others offer an "Internationally recognized TEFL Certificate." Are there any major differences between these?
And who knows, if I like the experience I may try to stay. I'm majoring in global political studies Wink


It's the same. If you look at their site and talk to Katie, the owner, you'll find out that they're recognised by IATEFL, TEFL Board, Chinese boards, sorry, can't remember which ones, and they have a credit transfer agreement with Anaheim Uni in CA; USA. HOpe this helps.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caledonia's 'poor' rating might also have to do with the fact that they employ their own grads, but don't necessarily offer the best rates of pay for the region. Some people prefer the trade off in terms of security in finding their first job.

Or it may have been that the course wasn't well done - it's been around a long time and has generally been considered quite all right, but I'm not monitoring Caledonian or any other course on a full time basis.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
lifestream wrote:
I also looked into Boland, Nature Girl. I noticed you wrote about it before in other threads and they seem very reputable. I sent them an e-mail requesting more information and they responded very promptly.
One thing I did notice on whichcourse.com is that Boland offers an "International TEFL Diploma" whereas most others offer an "Internationally recognized TEFL Certificate." Are there any major differences between these?
And who knows, if I like the experience I may try to stay. I'm majoring in global political studies Wink


It's the same. If you look at their site and talk to Katie, the owner, you'll find out that they're recognised by IATEFL, TEFL Board, Chinese boards, sorry, can't remember which ones, and they have a credit transfer agreement with Anaheim Uni in CA; USA. HOpe this helps.


In other words they're very reputable Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would never discount a school because of just one bad rating. It just means you need to ask some questions. Several bad ratings, that's another story.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try "How to Select a TEFL Course" at:

http://www.phuketdelight.com/TEFL.htm
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Chris Westergaard



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



It's the same. If you look at their site and talk to Katie, the owner, you'll find out that they're recognised by IATEFL, TEFL Board,



Sorry but


1. TEFL board is just a website. That's all they do. Actually the boland school i believe owns the website.


2. IATEFL isn't hard to become a member. Any of you could sign up for membership today if you wanted.


Boland might be a great school, but these are not good things to qualify them as being so.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sgt Killjoy wrote:
I would never discount a school because of just one bad rating. It just means you need to ask some questions. Several bad ratings, that's another story.


I agree. One bad rating (especially in a sea of good ones) could just be one disgruntled, failed student. You definitely need to figure out who rated it poorly (not the person's name, though, just--well, who they are: a passed student who couldn't find a job, a failed student, etc.) and why.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Westergaard wrote:


It's the same. If you look at their site and talk to Katie, the owner, you'll find out that they're recognised by IATEFL, TEFL Board,



Sorry but


1. TEFL board is just a website. That's all they do. Actually the boland school i believe owns the website.


2. IATEFL isn't hard to become a member. Any of you could sign up for membership today if you wanted.


Boland might be a great school, but these are not good things to qualify them as being so.


Alright, so what school would you recommend?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Westergaard wrote:
1. TEFL board is just a website. That's all they do. Actually the boland school i believe owns the website.
Boland might be a great school, but these are not good things to qualify them as being so.


They don't own the website Smile And I agree that these aren't the things that make them a good school, but it shows that they are committed to what they do by getting memberships, they're not fly-by-night operations.

Things that make them good are that they have 18 teaching hours and 140plus of classroom time, they'll help you get a free intership. I did one in the CZ Rep, at that time it was only three days, now they have longer ones, up to six months in Poland, CZ and China.
Their trainers are experienced, just look at the website. They have many resources available for your use as you job search.
They offer language training, and cultural events as well.
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