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teaching english in bodrum, tefl self employed, trinity cert
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frannie1



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:50 am    Post subject: teaching english in bodrum, tefl self employed, trinity cert Reply with quote

hi there, im new here and have some questions about tefl in turkey that i thought you might be able to help me with. i have looked through lots of the posts but cant find much about bodrum or being self employed. we will be moving to bodrum area in a year or so and i am planning to work as a tesol/tefl teacher there. i am doing a trinity cert tesol course this year. i have no degree. i would ,like any information or experiences from tesol teachers or anyone who might know, about teaching english in turkey, the bodrum area in particular, setting yourself up as a tesol teacher, being self employed, pay and hours, the trinity qualification and how its regarded in turkey, getting work without a degree and working in bodrum too. i know i have a lot of questions! hoping you can give me a bit of advice thankyou in advance, frannie Smile
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billybuzz



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frannie ,the first thing ,by your own admission you are degreeless ,not a great start and you want to be self employed ,tricky ,don't know anyone over here who is a self employed anything let alone teaching ,lets just say you are going freelance .This trinity thing as well wont cut much ice ,maybe a celta would be of more use to you .Finally bodrum ,why bodrum,its very seasonal after the summer has finished you will find those private lessons are gonna dry up .Sorry if these are not the answers you were hoping for but to be fair I have been gentle with you I reckon I'm one of the few who will be .
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frannie1



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

we will be living in bodrum as we have a house out there and plan to settle there as a family. here trinity is regarded as highly as celta so im suprised you say that. im unsure of what you say about no one being self employed as we know many people who are self employed in one way or another, setting up their own shops or cafes, bars etc. and im suprised you say its seasonal also as people live and work there all year round, and its not the tourists i will be teaching. do you live in bodrum yourself? thanks anyway.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frannie seems to be one of those who feel that 'Research' means posting on a forum and waiting for the answers !

Read what is here and THEN ask your questions sweetie-pie !
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frannie1



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi there i have actually spent the last few days looking around this site and others for information but i was keen to get some more specific to the bodrum area and setting up self employed. which after searching through i couldnt find anything about. if you could point me in the direction of the information that would be more helpful, thanks
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billybuzz



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like B doesn't just mean Bodrum but also Bubble as well .
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frannie1



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry i dont understand?
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Golightly



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The seasonality thing will directly affect you in Bodrum. Out of season, it is a relatively small place, but with a relatively large number of people who already speak English well enough to do their jobs, and don't really want any lessons. In season, the people who need Englsih lessons - waiters, barmen, etc. - are too busy working hideous hours to be able to have lessons, and besides they won't be earning enough to afford them.
You would probably be better off trawling the local derhanes, kolejis and lises at first, which admittedly will be a baptism of fire; However, you will start to get a feel of what it's like as a TEFLer there, and you may be able to start networking for privates etc.
As for going self-employed - there are a couple of references to that in some recent threads, and in the Master Index as well, I believe.
Don't run before you can walk, and good luck!
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frannie1



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for that, that is useful Smile
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FGT



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Golightly said:
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The seasonality thing will directly affect you in Bodrum. Out of season, it is a relatively small place, but with a relatively large number of people who already speak English well enough to do their jobs, and don't really want any lessons. In season, the people who need Englsih lessons - waiters, barmen, etc. - are too busy working hideous hours to be able to have lessons, and besides they won't be earning enough to afford them.
Which is very true. There is also a large pool of native English speakers, including experienced TEFL teachers, living in Bodrum so competition for the few teaching jobs may be high. In winter Bodrum becomes a village. A lot of the seasonal workers return to their home towns.

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This trinity thing as well wont cut much ice ,maybe a celta would be of more use to you
I disagree. The Trinity qualification is as good as CELTA, in some ways better as (I believe) it trains teachers not just of adults, unlike CELTA.

Frannie, you say you have no degree, I think this may prevent you getting a work permit as an EFL teacher. You also say you know many people with their own cafes and bars. Are these Turks or foreigners? As far as I'm aware, foreigners can only start a business in partnership with a Turk.

For advice on the legalities of setting up your own business and obtaining a work permit, see here: www.csgb.gov.tr and here: http://www.britishembassy.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1085327090609

Good luck!
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frannie1



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi there yes i should have mentioned they are turkish or turkish parnerships, i am married to a turkish man.
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billybuzz



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Frannie, you should have said earlier you silly rabbit ,married to a Turkish bloke ,well done that means you can cut through all the red tape us lesser mortals have to deal with .
I still say that that trinity thing is not much use to you without a degree at least with a celta I know at least one place you can get a job now that old S.D. has thrown the towel in .
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howmucharefags



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Bodrum 3 months out of the year and cannot be arssed teaching when there...why not try something more enjoyable like teaching a diving course? You could obtain your 1 star diving qualification within a matter of weeks if you applied yourself and that would enable you to teach beginners. Piece of pissss.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you realise the expense and hassle of doing this legally? Unless you are wealthy, have a good knowledge of Turkish or a lawyer that knows the ropes. Will you be happy working illegally?
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder what happened to that thread about punctuation and English and stuff.
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