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[spinelli35]

If you have no bills

That would be the hottest ESL destination for anyone wanting to enjoy the best time of their lives. You can even teach privates to Koreans as there are loads of them there already. The food is awsome, the beaches are great, the MOD EDIT, and even on 700 U.S. a month you can live like a king. Most schools pay around 1,000. U.S. per month.

This is the truth..they want native english teachers more then ever. Just apply and you'll see, and you'll make a ton of friends..

Good luck!

[ghost]

This post is very misleading and does not present an accurate picture of the situation in the Philippines.

I love the Philippines but your chances of landing a job there are very slim.

I am a certified teacher in Canada, certified in ESL in Quebec, and FSL in Ontario (French Second Language). I have a B.Ed., T.E.S.L. and M.A. from the University of Windsor and McGill University.

I did a massive mailing to all the schools I could find in the Philippines about one year ago. Many of the schools were run by Koreans. Guess what the result was? - out of the 50 schools that I e-mailed with my resume - I got just one response - from Berlitz in Manila, and it was not even a job offer, just a routine response. None of the other schools even had the courtesy to respond to my enquiries.

Yes, there are Korean owned schools in the Philippines, but they employ locals, because they are much cheaper than employing native speakers.

It is all about money and cost effective service.

Your chances in the Philippines are virtually nil.

The only 'International' type schools have permanent staff (with full teacher credentials) and they don't leave their jobs. TEFL backpackers on this forum have little or no chance.

This is a reality check.

Ghost in Korea (who would prefer to be in the Philippines, but can't)

[saint57]

The Ghost might want to check its resume for spelling and grammar errors. There is no reason for a spirit with its credentials to be haunting Korea.

[ghost]

It is of concern when people say there are tons of jobs in the Philippines to be had for EFL specialists. That is simply not the case.

The Korean 'hagwons' in the Philippines use Pinoy/Philippine natives who are much cheaper and more pleasant to deal with compared with demanding, whiny, North Americans.

That is the truth of the situation.

I go to the Philippines every year, and know the situation there, and trust me there are virtually no jobs for EFL specialists in the Philippines.

There are no jobs. I know because I have gone many times. You will be wasting your time. I have done extensive searches - there is nothing to be had. Best case scenario - you might be able to volunteer for one of the organizations - but then you pay about $1000 a month to volunteer! A complete rip off.

Ghost in Korea

[Henry_Cowell]

Previously in these forums, "ghost" has been shown to be wrong on this issue. Don't believe his take on it at all.

His proud ownership of all matters Filipino is a sham because his conclusions are so inaccurate.

[spinelli35]

[ghost]

[Henry_Cowell]

MOD EDIT But the criticisms of ghost's insights into the Philippines are still valid.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=47313

[ghost]

If it were true about vacancies in the Philippines several things would be happening.

1. There would be vacancies on Daves' and other sites. Fact: no vacancies come through - because there are none

2. Teachers would be going to the Philippines to look for work. Fact: No one goes to the Philippines to look for EFL work because they know (unlike the foolish person on this forum who pretends otherwise), that there is no EFL work in the Philippines.

Think about it in a logical way.

1. The Philippines does not, and will never need native speakers of English, because the Philippines is already a bilingual nation with English used in all Government, Education and other areas.

2. Korean schools are sprouting up in the Philippines, but the owners are smart enough to know that they can already use native Filipinos who are much better suited to this business than we are because they are more educated and have much better classroom manners than us foreigners, in general. You don't get Filipino teachers complaining about their jobs like we do.

3. Economics. Even if there existed an option to use 'native speakers' - it would make no sense paying a native speaker $1000 a month, when a Pinoy can do the job, more successfully I might add, for a fraction of that amount.

For those reasons, and others, the Philippines is not a destination for EFL/ESL teachers, and will never be.

I have a semi permanent residence there, unlike the charlatan who claims (falsely) to know about the situation on this forum. Don't be fooled.

Ghost in Korea

[Mr. Kalgukshi]

We are seeing too much ad hominem stuff on this thread.

Please keep your remarks confined to the message and not the messenger.

If not, this thread will no longer be available and appropriate members will be sanctioned.

[Henry_Cowell]

[ghost]

[spinelli35]

Pinoys and Pinays complain just as much as everybody else..they are no exception to the rule. Backpackers don't really go to the phillipines because it's too expensive for them to fly in and out. So I don't know what you're talking about there. Koreans just like everybody else prefer native speakers rather than Pinoys/pinays any day of the week. They may not necessarily use native speakers for grammar purposes but when it comes to Pronounciation and Western style of teaching how can you even compare Fillipino's to us when it comes to teaching English?

The reason native speakers don't go there is because of the money. They don't need people telling them that there are no jobs. As long as there are English schools there are jobs for native speakers regardless.

Like I said image has alot to do with it in this business, you just forgot where you are, despite your credentials.

I got offered jobs in the Phillipines by international schools and universities alike. I didn't take them because of the money. However it's possible that the jobs to be had don't advertise because they get picked up quick, but don't assume there are no jobs just because you didn't get hired. That's nonsense.

[Henry_Cowell]

[ghost]