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[pondwalden66]

Suppose you left on terrible terms with your employer. But you did put forth an honest and hardworking effort for your last 3 weeks before abandoning ship 3 days before your scheduled departure because you got skeptical and cynical because they kept threatening to "fine" you.

You are due 170,000 yen and haven`t been paid as promised.

A friend`s friend has mafia connections. Should I use them?

[bluetortilla]

Nope. Bad, bad idea.

[pondwalden66]

[User N. Ame]

[southofreality]

Pond,

I'll get your money back for you. And, I'll only charge you ￥200,000 to do it. PM me and let me know.

[cornishmuppet]

What's the name of the school?

[king kakipi]

pondwalden
when you post do you use all your fingers on each hand to type, or just a total 4 fingers. If the latter, go for it....................

[Glenski]

If they kept threatening to fine you, why didn't you seek advice from this board, the union, or the labour standards office first? You are the one who jumped ship, despite a scheduled departure date. Despite all the bad experience you may have had there, who is really the one at fault?

Want your money back? See a lawyer.

[ironopolis]

OP, look mate, in previous posts you moaned a lot about ECC, and now it seems you've, in your own words, "left on terrible terms" with another Japanese employer. People more cynical than me would say something about looking in mirrors, but I'd just suggest that, at best, you don't seem suited to working in Japan (and not necessarily any shame in that) and should maybe just consider moving on, putting it behind you and trying elsewhere.

Oh yeah, and bear in mind that there are few things more pathetic sounding in Japan than ESL teachers trying to boost their self-esteem or sense of grievance by trying to claim they "know a yakuza".

[cafebleu]

Pondwalden is not necessarily a troll.

Years ago I had a good friend who was heavily involved with people in the bikie gang scene - her boyfriend was a rought but decent man and after hearing of some extreme nastiness I was put through by a young man I knew (not a boyfriend or ex) but somebody who caused me immense stress and hurt because he was a nasty bully, one of my friends' bike acquaintances offered to 'teach 'im a lesson'.

While I had no theoretical ethical problems with that (I don't believe in karma and sometimes people who do amazingly unethical and cruel things escape scott free in life), I wisely realised it was best not to go down that track.

On practical grounds alone it is not good to get people who lead outlaw lives to do you favours - THEY control the situation, not you, and a Japanese yakuza has no obligation to do the favour for the money agreed and not come and extort you for more. Stay away.

Regarding your school, plan your revenge carefully. Do what you can to reimburse yourself whether by coasting along your last working days, not doing things for them that you normally would, etc. You might even leave them hanging on and not turn up for work as arranged. I have never done this but some employers in Japan deserve no respect whatsoever if they are cheating you out of money.

[JaredW]

I've actually met two members of the yakuza. One was in a branch in rural Japan and one was in the Yokohama area. Both were very respectful.

I agree, though, that you don't want to go off sulking to some yakuza. First of all, 170,000 Yen is chump change in the Yakuza world, so I'd imagine. What's that $1700 or AU$2000. Not much. For many of us it might be, but for them, they'll probably pummel you for asking. Second, once you go in it with the yakuza, you're indebted for life. Think of the funeral home director in The Godfather. You don't want Don Vito to show up at your door with Sonny one night.

Also, what the hell does "mafia connections" mean? Is there some eHarmony website that takes your personality type and then connects you with a like-minded gangster?

Sorry, last part was troll-ish. But, the first part is true.

[flyingkiwi]

Let your boss sleep with the fishes, lad.