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chocolatechipcharlie
Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: Problems finding employment during Jan/Feb? |
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I'm planning to move from South Korea to Hanoi finding work in January or February. Is it harder to find work during this period? Would the Tet celebrations make it harder to find work? Are there prime recruiting periods? I have a degree, a CELTA, and coming up to two years of experience teaching university students, in-house business classes, and children.
Many thanks for your help. |
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lizarddoctor

Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 141 Location: HCMC, Vietnam
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:51 am Post subject: |
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As my experience was learned the hard way my first months leading to my first Tet holiday... if you do not have work secured at the start or before December, you will probably be unemployed until the second week of March.
All schools close at Tet time and the language schools shut down for nearly a month until all of the students start returning to their class schedules in the public schools. I went nearly 3 months with no work (Dec - Feb) and dropped off probably 70 resumes during that span and picked up a total of 4 hours a week for only a couple weeks since the school lost a teacher early. Once the second week of March rolled in, my phone rang off the hook and I was turning down 3-5 jobs a week for the next month.
Jan and Feb are the worst times to come to Vietnam looking for ESL work. March may take a few weeks until the flood of openings present themselves. Summer time is prime time (right now still as I have 43 hours of work this week alone) and in November the long term teachers gobble up all available hours they can get and hold on to them for dear life until Tet hits and the bank account can support them for the month off and/or travel expenses.
Not to say that you won't find anything temporary, but be prepared to wait out the drought until after Tet or just take some travel time for yourself for a month or so to avoid just sitting around waiting for a school to open back up and get some students. |
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spycatcher reincarnated
Joined: 19 May 2005 Posts: 236
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:05 am Post subject: |
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I can't comment on Lizard's experiences, but I very much disagree with how negative he is on the job scene in Vietnam during this time, however, there have been several posts similar to your in the past and most respondees agree with Lizard more than myself on this.
I believe that this is a relatively easy time of year to find work. It is always easy to find work in Vietnam, just depends how good the work is and what kind of work you want.
Believe Tet starts around the 7th of Feb next year. The dates will be the same as China�s next year.
December (know you didn't mention this month)
Kids teaching goes on all year around and it doesn't slacken off in December.
Adult teaching does slow down before Tet and I would say that by late December (18-20th) things are slowing.
Many teachers leave Vietnam in December to go back to their families, either for good or just for a break so I would say there is an under supply of teachers in Vietnam around this time, but this is probably more skewed towards children's classes.
Christmas Day is not a national holiday in Vietnam. Christmas Eve is a much bigger event and hardly any classes run in the evening.
January
Kids teaching will go on as normal. Adults teaching will show a bigger downturn. There will still be a lack of teachers because of all the teachers that returned home in December.
February
Kids teaching will remain the same up until Tet. Adults teaching will continue to trail off and most levels/classes that finish that would normally role over to new levels/classes won't open again until about 1-2 weeks after Tet.
There will still be a lack of kids� teachers
Most schools close for about 2 weeks during and after Tet, but some only close for a week or so.
Year on year one can see that Tet is becoming less and less of an issue and there have been articles in some newspapers over the last few years suggesting the abolition of Tet. Don't see this happening in the short to medium term however.
At Tet many adults make New Year�s resolutions and then sign up for classes which start 2-4 weeks after Tet. Teachers going around schools sortly before and after Tet are often strung along by schools with promises of work which they can only keep if enough students sign up. As a rule of thumb I would doubt what most schools promise after Tet for teaching adults as they usually have no idea how many students they are going to recruit. |
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chocolatechipcharlie
Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Thank you very much for your quick and detailed replies, I appreciate it. I will think about delaying my visit and doing a bit of travelling before then. Thank you again. |
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TimkinMS

Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 86
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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spycatcher reincarnated wrote: |
I believe that this is a relatively easy time of year to find work. It is always easy to find work in Vietnam, just depends how good the work is and what kind of work you want. |
I agree with SR's comments above in general but the work being available during the TET slow period may not be very good work and at not very good organizations. |
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lizarddoctor

Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 141 Location: HCMC, Vietnam
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:16 am Post subject: |
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spycatcher reincarnated wrote: |
I can't comment on Lizard's experiences, but I very much disagree with how negative he is on the job scene in Vietnam during this time, however, there have been several posts similar to your in the past and most respondees agree with Lizard more than myself on this.
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Lol, fair enough. I did read my post again and it does come off a bit more negative at first glance. But what really is the key factor that hinders newcomers during this time is the fact that they have virtually no network of job possibilities in place and that does not come overnight. Most schools will usually call those numbers which they already have onhand from the teachers they already have relationships with. If the schools would be much better on preparing for their own needs for the advancing months, there would always be work available for everyone. One major factor in snagging any work in Jan and Feb as a new teacher to VN is if the school needs someone immediately and you just happened to walk in the door at that moment. Forget sending e-mail resumes if you want immediate responses. The schools want to see you. Otherwise they are going to contact someone already here and just fill their temporary need and worry about after Tet later.
Other industries outside of ESL are still strong possibilities, but when it comes to the ESL scene. There is a definate drop off of positions for the newly arrived expats regardless of how much pavement they pound. Luck is a factor in Jan. and Feb. If you just want to snag a backpacker type school and will accept lower pay that is out there for the newbies. Prime work will probably not be a consideration till after the holiday due to the slow decline in students actually enrolled leading to the holiday. Once a class finishes, the schools generally close the class and won't restart it for only a few weeks. Mid March is a goldmine and there is more than enough work to fill everyones schedule and as I said, your phone will ring off the hook with offers once the schools start filling again with students. |
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TimkinMS

Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 86
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:05 am Post subject: |
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spycatcher reincarnated wrote: |
I can't comment on Lizard's experiences, but I very much disagree with how negative he is on the job scene in Vietnam during this time.... |
I think it depends on the school.
Your school has 3 recruiters working full time getting teachers from overseas. They get set up before they even arrive.
I do agree with your comments as well as Lizardoctor's |
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chocolatechipcharlie
Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:17 am Post subject: |
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So, based on this info a good time to come might be mid-Feb, so I can explore, find a place in the city, meet some other teachers, get some CVs ready and out in Feb, and get set up for serious job hunting in March?
If I just drop into the city then does anybody recommend first ports of call for finding accommodation? Are there any cafes which advertise house-shares, or something similar?
Thanks again for the replies people. |
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