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Kurochan



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: How did you choose an MA program? Reply with quote

Hi --

Just wondering if any of you out there have an MA, and what it is in. I have an MA in another field, and am thinking about going back to school to get one either in TEFL or Applied Linguistics. What do you have, and why? How did you choose your school? It seems there are so many choices out there, it's mind boggling.

Thanks for any input!
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a BA in Linguistics, emphasis/option in English as a Second Language (my school recently changed the title of this option to TESOL). One of my hotshot Profs., who was the Phonologist, couldn't understand why people go into MA programs. As far as he knew, he said, "MAs are like door prizes for those who can't complete the PhD program." He didn't understand that the MA TESOL has now become a kind of professional diploma, similar to an MBA; it's for people who did their BA in something else. The similarities may stop there as MBAs go on to make quite a bit of more money than an MA TESOL.
I started an MA TESOL program at a different school but stopped soon after as I had quickly realized that I was just repeating what I had already done for my BA; most MA TESOL programs schedule many undergrad and grad student classes together. Of course they give you a token, extra assignment for every course and at the end you may choose to do a thesis, a project, or a comprehensive exam.

Many folks recommend doing the DELTA over the MA TESOL; it's cheaper, shorter and it serves the same function; it gives you that extra piece of paper, that higher qualification.

by the way, I chose my school based on how many Teacher Assistantship opportunities were offered and how nice the city was. I wouldn't worry too much about the quality of the Profs., there are good and bad at every school. If you're looking for good reputation, go to the private schools, although you'll pay for it.


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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Many folks recommend doing the CELTA over the MA TESOL


I think you meant DELTA here. The CELTA is the entry level certificate; the DELTA is the diploma, which is sometimes described as being post graduate level.

I sort of disagree about the DELTA being a better choice than an MA, but this is where you'll here the debate. Nobody who's spent much time in the field would put the CELTA into this category.


Best,
justin
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justin said:
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I think you meant DELTA here. The CELTA is the entry level certificate; the DELTA is the diploma, which is sometimes described as being post graduate level.


Right, that's the one! I'll edit it.
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sheeba



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MA is more research based.

DELTA or Diploma is more practical in nature(mind you I did do some research- Observation /Classroom Portfolio / and individual reserach project)

I did the Dip in one year. I'd say that it is worth about the same as one year on a respectable MA 3 year program but still the teaching part to it is VERY intensive and I don't think I will EVER get that kind of experience on an MA.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DELTA vs MA/M.Ed. are two different career tracks.

An MA/M.Ed. will get you nice university jobs in many countries (something a BA or DELTA won't do) and a very comfortable lifestyle. My last university job had 20 weeks paid vacation and a four-day work week. In the last 15 years I've rarely had less than ten weeks paid vacation per year - and when I didn't I was making such good money that it didn't matter (the Middle East).

DELTA will get you DOS jobs and maybe some teacher training, but you'll be working a pretty full schedule and have to manage people (something I don't like! - but that is just me). Conversely an appropriate MA will get you many of those same jobs should you want them.

MA equals more time and more work to earn it, but many more options.

People often have very strong opinions on these things - but I think my M.Ed. gave me a far better life than a DELTA would have. 'Tis my opinion anyway . . .
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Sherri



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Re: How did you choose an MA program? Reply with quote

Kurochan wrote:
Just wondering if any of you out there have an MA, and what it is in. What do you have, and why? How did you choose your school?


Hi Kurochan, like you I have a non-EFL related MA. After 10 + years of EFL and the CELTA, I decided to get an MA in TEFL/TESL. I decided to go the MA route because quite frankly a DELTA will not help you land a job in the US (where I was planning to work) at a university or community college. Of course I was interested in the professional development, but I also wanted something to help me get a job. I could not have the job I have now at a community college if I did not have the MA.

I chose my particular course (University of Birmingham, UK) because it was distance and had a good rep--I knew a couple of people already taking it and there was good support in the way of study groups and tutors where I lived at the time (Tokyo). You have to be very motivated to do it by distance, but it worked for me.

You have to think about why you want the qualification, ask around as you are doing now for experiences and then finally take the plunge! Now I am thinking about the next step, maybe when the kids are older...
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: How did you choose an MA program? Reply with quote

Sherri wrote:
You have to think about why you want the qualification


Spot on. AND, what you want it to do for you.
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denise



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see a lot more of the types of jobs that I want that ask for MAs rather than DELTAs. I'm not sure a DELTA would be worth much, for example, getting into university teaching in the US. I don't even know if it would have gotten me the other uni jobs that I've had that require MAs.

I had to choose between the Monterey Institute of International Studies and Boston University, both of which are ridiculously expensive. I chose MIIS because it's a small institute (it is exclusively a graduate school, with only 4 internationally-oriented MA programs--and there may be about 10ish undergrad students on the campus in a different program), very highly-regarded, and I grew up in California. I am very happy with the program.

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