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Quebecer27
Joined: 23 Jun 2006
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Location: Sherbrooke,QC, Canada
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 Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:15 am Post subject: Diploma from a French university |
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Hello all,
My girlfriend and I plan on going to Korea next year to teach English.
I have a BA in English from a French university, and I'm currently writing my MA in comparative literature. She will have a BA consisting of 3 minors, which were all taught in French (social sciences, orientation and industrial relations).
We both speak English fluently with no accent, but we wonder if we will be able to find a job since we didn't attend English schools? A friend of mine wrote an email to the Korean consulate and they told her that she needed to prove that she had English schooling, even though she holds a BA in TESL.
How should we proceed? Anything we should, or shouldn't do or say?
Thanks for your help!
Jonathan and Joany |
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saint57
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Beyond the Dune Sea
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| Are you talking about a university in Quebec or France? Is the diploma written in French or English. |
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Quebecer27
Joined: 23 Jun 2006
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Location: Sherbrooke,QC, Canada
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'm talking about Quebec and the diplomas are written in french.
Sorry for the confusion.
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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003
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Location: home sweet home
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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There are a couple things you could do. First, go to the Korean forum
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/
Second get your HS transcripts. your HS was in English, right?
Third look into English and French teaching positions |
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Jetgirly
Joined: 17 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Diploma from a French university |
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| Quebecer27 wrote: |
| She will have a BA consisting of 3 minors, which were all taught in French (social sciences, orientation and industrial relations) (...) she holds a BA in TESL. |
I am confused. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Posts: 2021
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| your HS was in English, right? |
Why would you think that?
OP,
Your best plan of attack is to see if your university can give you a translation into English. If not, just don't mention it. Some employers may think it's an old school using Latin  Maybe it might be easier if you go to Ottawa (ETA oops! You're in Sherbrook, maybe Montreal wouldn't ask, but I wouldn't want to pin my hopes on that!), and go to the Embassy, just because there are so many anglophones that without an obvious accent it may not even occur to them to ask if you are a francophone (and it's not like they'd be able to say "No, you have a French name, therefore you MUST be francophone!" in any case, because there are a lot of people with French names who don't actually speak all that much French- like Avril Lavigne!)
There are TONNES of francophones (not all of them totally bilingual) teaching overseas (I've met francophones who when drunk seem to totally forget English altogether!). They tend to just not say that their school wasn't in English- people look at your passport, they see "Canadian", they think English speaking country (especially if you're white). I've also met people from New Brunswick who were francophone, but I didn't know for years, they had literally no accent. It was years before I heard a French accent at all from them- and when i did it was right after they'd gone to visit their family for the summer.
Honestly, if you were to show up in Japan, for example, and look for a job, you wouldn't have problems. People might ask *IF* you speak French, but they likely won't ask "Are you French?". They would see a Canadian passport and that would be good enough for them.
JETgirly:
The friend who called the Korean consolate is a girl, but NOT his girlfriend. Two different people (in Quebec an education degree is your undergraduate degree- it's not a concurrent programme in the sence that it can be in Ontario or other provinces, nor is it an after degree- like a PGCE from the UK. So you can spend three or four years taking geography, or you can spend the same length of time and get a degree in teaching Geography. The same thing applies with English language versus teaching English language, so this friend has a degree in teaching English language). |
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Jetgirly
Joined: 17 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| I was under the mistaken impression that the friend called the Korean consulate on their behalf (and therefore the one person had that three-minor BA which was somehow also a BA in TEFL). |
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