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[msaung]

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[jwbhomer]

You could start by posting your resume here on Dave's. Click on "Post Your Resume". Good luck. You'll need it!

[tw]

What do you mean by "Chinese minority"? Do you mean that you have less than 50% Chinese blood in you, or that in Thailand you are considered a minority because you are of Chinese heritage?

Now, assuming that you are of 100% Asian blood, and given the fact that you don't have a degree, no TEFL certificate, and no actual classroom teaching experience, I'd say your chances of finding a job in Beijing would be nill. While Tianjin is relatively close to Beijing, I don't really know if you would have a better chance at finding a job there. You could try other places in Hebei province, but I think Hebei now requires enforces the degree requirement. Therefore, as I tell any poster of Asian heritage who enquires here, don't be picky and be realistic: look for a position in smaller, poorer, and more rural areas like Shanxi, Shaanxi, Henan, or even Inner Mongolia. No, they are not that close to Beijing, but trains are very convenient in China.

Last but not least, if you want to increase your employability, might I suggest you take good use of your time and quickly get yourself some kind of TEFL certification? It doesn't have to be a TESOL or CELTA, just as long as it shows employers you have some kind of TEFL certification. Without one, you will probably end up teaching 30+ hours for under 4000 RMB like the African and Filipino teachers.

[jg]

Work in a kindy, play with kids all day. Its not really teaching and the kids will love you so long as you are cheerful and energetic. You might have to work illegally but so what, jobs that don't toe the line are a dime a dozen. Nevermind going to Mayberry, pick a decent midsized town like Changsha, Ningbo, Keifeng, etc.

Have a little initiative and don't be discouraged by some initial rejections, also have some money saved as a backup. If you are cute you can leverage that, I knew of a black girl who was indifferent to her job, totally unqualified but a mega-hottie, Web hired her just after I left and (so former students tell me) kept her around just because everyone thought she was such tasty eye candy. Schools hire on looks and appeal as much as (more than?) ability.This was in primo Shanghai, so surely outside Shanghai you can do just as well. I knew a proper dread who had no problem finding work in Jinan too.

Good luck!

[Anda]

To give you an idea for a Chinese with 5 years of college with a pass and limited Engish you are looking at 1,000 to 2,000 RMB a month with dorm accomodation in private Elementary schools. If you are good then you can attact private students and double your wages.

Tell them that you will pay for your own visa which will cost about 800 RMB and have a go.

Have a look at the elementary positions towards the botton of the page on the link


http://www.cathayteacher.com/

[vikuk]

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[Anda]

kevinleihuang
Member Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Maanshan, China
Native of: Chinese Madrin, P.R.China
Age: 23
Posts: 41

Re: salaires / sueldos / salaries


http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=96212

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well, in China, wages vary dramatically. Wages are listed as follows in US dollars.

minimum wage: $52/month (big cities), $41/month (mid & small cities)
Labourer or clerical: $150-350/month (big cities), $70-250/month (mid & small cities)
fresh graduates with a bachelor degree: $200-500/month (big cities), $120-250/month (mid & small cities)
fresh graduates with a master degree: $700-1000/month (big cities), $400-800/month (mid & small cities)
fresh graduates with a doctor degree: $1500-4000/month (big cities), $1000-2300/month (mid & small cities)
skilled trades: $600-1000/month (big cities), $200-600/month (mid & small cities)

teachers in primary schools and high schools: $200-600/month (big cities), $150-400/month (mid & small cities), $12-50/month (towns in western part of China)

university faculty: $500-2000/month (famous institutions), $250-800/month (common institutions)
Doctor, Lawyer: $1000-5000/month (big cities), $400-1500/month (mid & small cities)

military service as follows (average salary per month for each rank):
Private 2nd class: $150
Private 1st class: $180
Corporal: $220
Sergeant: $250
Staff Sergeant: $280
Sergeant Major: $360
Lieutenant: $300
First Lieutenant: $330
Captain: $380
Major: $420
Lieutenant Colonel: $480
Colonel: $550
Colonel in Charge: $660
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China is a fast developing country where perfect social and law systems have not been fully set up or developed. When going to find a job, many people are usually judged by only two aspects: one is the education level rather than your actually capacity; the other is the level of institution you graduated. For example, a fresh graduate with a Bachelor Degree in Management from a famous university will easily get a high-paid job, approximately US Dollars $350-500 per month, while one from a common university might find it difficult to get a job and the income would be much lower, about $150-250 per month. This is very common in China.

Taking my friends for example. One of my friends, who graduated in June of 2005 from a most famous Chinese University with a Bachelor Degree in Management (her major is Financial Management), earned $850 per month in a big city as a freshman in Pricewaterhouse Coopers, one of the most famous companies in the world. Another one of my friend, who also graduated in June of 2005 from a common university with a Bachelor Degree in Mangement (her major is also Financial Management), earned $212 per month in a mid city as a freshman in Kodak.

In some big and more liberal cities, such as Beijing, Shanghai, Tianjin, Dalian, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Nanjing, Suzhou, Wuxi, Wuhan, Chengdu, Chongqing, and etc, people with higher educational level are much more competitive. If you have a Doctoral degree in business-related field, you might easily get a job in these big cities and get a paid of about $3000-5000 per month. This is a very high and competitive income in China.

However, teachers in common university and people in military service are usually paid very very low compared with others who have similar educational level. For example, my dad has been an English professor for more than 10 years in a common university, and he only earned approximately $8,000 for the whole year of 2005. My neighbour, a Colonel in Army, has been in the military service for more than 20 years and only earned less than $7,000 last year.

Now the Chinese Government has just realized that people in military service deserve a much higher income. So, in 2006, the income of military man will double. However, people like my father apparently will not benefit from the policy.

[Anda]

http://education.stateuniversity.com/pages/272/China-PREPRIMARY-PRIMARY-EDUCATION.html

The status of kindergarten teachers has not risen very much since the days when the majority of staff were kindly but uneducated elderly women. Today, the qualified teachers are graduates from normal schools for kindergartens. They are called laoshi (teacher) as a mark of respect, rather than the familiar address form ayi (auntie) used in the past. However, their wages are poor, and kindergarten training tends to be taken by less competitive students whose grades are not good enough to get into any other college.

I work at such a college!

[voodikon]

[tw]

It certainly is getting harder and harder not to think and feel that the OP was playing us given the fact that she has not replied in four days after all the suggestions and advice.

[eslstudies]

[HunanForeignGuy]