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[km618]

My students want me to tell them about the process they have to go through to be able to study in America. Can anyone tell me some websites where I can get some information?...or just tell me on this thread? I'm from the US but I don't know anything about the process.

[Anda]

I'm Australian but I can tell you that any US Embassy will have this information on hand, the same as Australian Embassies have on Australian universities, as its big money.



Um,here is link: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&q=Universities+study+United+States+U.S.+Consulate+General+China&btnG=Search

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[jeffinflorida]

[SnoopBot]

I will add my 2-cents here as I worked at my University in their TESOL department while doing the 3rd year of my master's degree program.

It is almost impossible to get an undergraduate spot in the US schools, however it is much easier to get into a masters program as long as it isn't a high demand program at a top tier university.

(High demand=Law, Medical, certain MBA's)

Smaller 2nd tier universities need a higher level of international students to keep their programs alive. So it is much easier to get into these programs if an international student.

As mentioned above, if you are a goof off in a masters program at a reputable university you will get bounced out.

I just received my 2007 Alumni book from my university with all of the biographic rosters and list of graduates going back into the 60's.

I looked up my program, and looked at countries or origin for graduates. I left to complete the final phase of my practicum abroad. I came back submitted my research and practicum teaching materials/assignments, passed and went to China on a full time position.

Therefore, I never walked on stage to get my degree. My degree was sent to me as I missed the graduation ceremony. I was not there to graduate with my peers. (I stayed in China for 3-years)

I was amazed at the missing names of my fellow classmates who were from the International Community and the names of those I tutored at the TESOL department.

After talking to one of my Taiwanese classmates who is now teaching in a Taiwan University, she states MANY are MISSING because they basically DIDN'T GRADUATE. Most of them were on their 2nd or 3rd year practicum.

Some must have flunked out on the final project!

I estimate that +20% of the ones in my Med program left before getting their degree for one reason or another.

Rumor has it 5 were bounced for plagiarism on the research project alone.
She mentioned a few had money problems and couldn't fully finish.

Moral of the story: You can get into any US university if you pay the fee, however if you don't do the work or cheat you will be bounced out. My alumni book is proof of this fact as many names are missing from the graduation listings that were my former classmates.

My 2 cents worth...

[upchuckles]

What does this have to do with Jobs and working in China?

[A'Moo]

Tell their parents that you have been approved as a representative of the NCAA, and are authorized to begin the process of admitting students to division 1 universities. Make out an application form, along with a receipt for the initial fee-5000y each to get the ball rolling. After taking in 100 applications, get the hell out of whichever locale you are in, and do what we should be doing-travelling!!!

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[englishgibson]

I know employers that are involved in ACT programs that provide students with GAC (Global Assessment Certificate) as well as they serve as agents for the students western uni applications.

Cheers and beers to China

[km618]

ok thanks for all of the replies

[arioch36]

Some of the worse replies I have seen, mostly garbage. 618, big difference, Phd, MA or BS. ?

For a BS degree, they pretty much guaranteed to be accepted at a half-way decent uni with decent test scores, but scholarships and grants are very competitive. The student needs to show that they have enough money for the school year to get their visa. Fluent english is neccessary. At my uni, mainland Chinese were a minority because of the money issue. Many from Taiwan, Hong Kong. I will agree that many of the BS students were babies.
Many uni's have a summer TESOL program, and you can come to this program before being accepted into the college... I think that's the way many colleges work it. ???

I literally, personally, knew hundreds of mainland Chinese MA's and Phd's at my uni (late 80's). They usually outperformed their American counterparts. Maybe half of the Phd candidates were mainland Chinese in Chemistry, Ed Psych, Physics. Fluent English not as neccessary. Two or three years work experience very helpful, especially for the scholarships. Without this, very high marks neccessary ... very high test scores. The American colleges are awash in green. Harvard has so much money, they don't need to charge tuition until the year 2070. A Chinese accepted to a Phd. program will not have problems with money, besides the initial flight to America. Full scholarships, tuition waiver, part time work-study (which for social sciences is a piece of cake, for the hard sciences involves a lot of lab work, but the hard sciences offers a lot of teaching opportunities.

MA's; easier to get accepted, harder to get the money, but the money is still there

As Anda said, all visa information is on the internet. I know that most of my Chinese friends in America are the ones who searched these things themselves. Only the losers (losing out on going) used middlemen. The embassy will not allow the middleman in, the colleges will not accept someone thru a middleman. With work experience, many school waive tests, and have representatives in China in the summer, and give their own tests