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menso35



Joined: 27 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:03 am    Post subject: I need some advice Reply with quote

Is it possible to make a living teaching only adults? I have been in contact with a few organizations which say they focus on adults, though most of them only offer hourly and not salaried work. Any recommendations on these kinds of schools?

I am 35. From what I have read it seems like this may be a little over the hill in Taiwan. It will probably be a hurdle, but probably not insurmountable. Comments??

What does one wear to an interview for a teaching job there(I am male)? Slacks, dress shirt, and tie? Full on suit?

Overall how do the Taiwanese view foreign teachers? Are you respected or thought of more as derelicts from your home country coming over to rape and pillage and because you couldn't amount to anything back home? Just curious because I taught in another Asian country and due to recent media coverage teachers there are looked upon as the cancer of society.

Speaking of that other country, once there I found myself in a very untenable situation and didn't leave on very good terms and thus won't be able to use the company as a reference. The problem is that the work visa is in my passport. Will that raise any eyebrows? Would a new passport be in order? (come to think of it, I can't seem to find that thing).

Thank you in advance for your help. Have a great day.
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TaoyuanSteve



Joined: 05 Feb 2003
Posts: 1028
Location: Taoyuan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: I need some advice Reply with quote

menso35 wrote:
Is it possible to make a living teaching only adults? I have been in contact with a few organizations which say they focus on adults, though most of them only offer hourly and not salaried work. Any recommendations on these kinds of schools?


Trust me, you want to be paid hourly as opposed to salary. Being on a salary, in the Taiwanese eyes, means they own you and they can and will expect a lot for the money. Salaries are almost never a better deal than hourly pay.

menso35 wrote:
I am 35. From what I have read it seems like this may be a little over the hill in Taiwan. It will probably be a hurdle, but probably not insurmountable. Comments??


Unlikely to be a problem.

menso35 wrote:
What does one wear to an interview for a teaching job there(I am male)? Slacks, dress shirt, and tie? Full on suit?


I think it's going to depend on the particular job. I think a full suit is over doing it for all but jobs that expect that level of dress everyday. For everything else, a shirt and tie will suffice.

menso35 wrote:
Overall how do the Taiwanese view foreign teachers? Are you respected or thought of more as derelicts from your home country coming over to rape and pillage and because you couldn't amount to anything back home? Just curious because I taught in another Asian country and due to recent media coverage teachers there are looked upon as the cancer of society.


Overall, I'd say a heck of a lot better than Koreans view teachers, if my friend living in Seoul is anything to go by. Taiwan is a pretty easy country to live in as a foreigner. It's probably one of the better in Asia, in fact.

menso35 wrote:
Speaking of that other country, once there I found myself in a very untenable situation and didn't leave on very good terms and thus won't be able to use the company as a reference. The problem is that the work visa is in my passport. Will that raise any eyebrows? Would a new passport be in order? (come to think of it, I can't seem to find that thing).


Unlikely to be an issue.
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Ferfichkin



Joined: 07 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach only adults and I'm not missing any meals. That being said, your income will be limited if you don't work mornings, and mornings in Taiwan, for the most part, means children. Bottom line, in my experience, it's much easier to make 'good' money teaching children, or splitting your time between children and adults.

Good luck,

fich
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BJ



Joined: 03 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As previous posters have said, yes you can make a living teaching adults only. But if you want the real money, then most have to teach those 20 hours in the morning kindergarten then 12 or so elementary and then find privates adult schools.

May i suggest you start that way, get a work visa, ask around when you settle down and find adults to work with. It is much harder finding adults only to start with.

Schools like DAvids specialise in adults but only generally offer 14 hours of so, IF you can get a work visa with them. other wise its 4 or 6 hours a week.


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surrealia



Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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Location: Taiwan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a number of schools that cater to adult classes, including GVC (or Global Village), David's, Wall Street Institute, and TLI (Taipei Language Institute). I can't tell you for certain which of them are worth working for. This post over at Forumosa has a list of some other schools as well as some suggestions and links to other posts on the same subject:

http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?p=750008&highlight=teaching+adults#750008

This page has addresses and phone numbers for schools in Taipei:

http://www.geocities.com/allhou/schootaip.htm
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menso35



Joined: 27 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP here. Thank you for your responses, I really appreciate your help.

Based upon my research and what you guys are saying is that in order to make decent money I would have to combine kids and adults. Taiwan is a trip. They say teaching kindergarten is illegal yet Hess clearly advertises for foreign teachers for that level.

When you talk about teaching kids in the morning, are you strictly referring to kindy? If you are also referring to elementary, when do they go to their regular schools then?

I thought you could only work for whatever school sponsors your visa??

By the way, I think I am probably going to give Taiwan a pass if teaching kindergarten is unavoidable. I like kids, from a distance and as long as they are someone else's.
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