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ezhoucitygirl
Joined: 25 Oct 2004
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Location: ezhou , hubei
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 Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject: Teaching in HK - and accomodation |
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Hi Everyone,
After teaching in China for around three years , I am thinking of doing a stint in Hong Kong. I've only ever visited but I like the feel of the place.
Also, myself and a couple of other prospective teachers would like to rent somewhere prior to working there .. for a month or so. But, were on a budget! So we would like some advice re: the areas that we could realistically rent/ how much etc . I guess the main priority here would be secure / clean etc .
Any advice as to jobs/ accomodation would be much appreciated
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YellowHair
Joined: 29 Apr 2006
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Location: HK
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:21 am Post subject: |
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It all depends on what age level you want to teach in relation to job openings.
The cost of housing on a budget also depends on how much your budget is, where you want to live, how big of a flat/village house do you want, and how far are you willing to commute. |
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hkteach
Joined: 29 May 2005
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Location: Hong Kong
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:40 am Post subject: |
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If you're arriving here as tourists and want to start looking for jobs while here, you won't be able to rent a flat/apartment/house.
This is because you need a HK ID card to be able to sign a lease, get TV, landline phone and electricity. When you want any of these things, providers of these services always ask for your ID.
You can't get an ID card unless you are in the 'right to stay' category (e.g. have a job with workvisa, have a dependent's visa or business visa).
So, until you have your ID card you will be limited to hotels, guesthouses and other accommodation aimed at the tourist market. |
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YSW
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| hkteach wrote: |
If you're arriving here as tourists and want to start looking for jobs while here, you won't be able to rent a flat/apartment/house.
This is because you need a HK ID card to be able to sign a lease, get TV, landline phone and electricity. When you want any of these things, providers of these services always ask for your ID. |
Not in my experience. I never got an ID card till I'd been living and working here for several years. No problem renting, electricity or phone. If you need ID, a passport will do in almost all cases. |
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11:59
Joined: 31 Aug 2006
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Location: Hong Kong: The 'Pearl of the Orient'
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| YSW wrote: |
| hkteach wrote: |
If you're arriving here as tourists and want to start looking for jobs while here, you won't be able to rent a flat/apartment/house.
This is because you need a HK ID card to be able to sign a lease, get TV, landline phone and electricity. When you want any of these things, providers of these services always ask for your ID. |
Not in my experience. I never got an ID card till I'd been living and working here for several years. No problem renting, electricity or phone. If you need ID, a passport will do in almost all cases. |
I object to this post as the poster above is basically claiming to have been employed in Hong Kong illegally (if true then that really must have been a great job). Furthermore, it appears that the poster above � YSW � is openly inciting others to commit an identical crime, which is an act that can bring serious repercussions. Technically speaking this post should be reported to the Immigration Department who would follow it up through the owner of this website (request for/seizure of IP addresses and the like).
To the OP, if you want you can go and join the motley band of illegal immigrant cannabis-smoking hippie wannabes on Lamma Island like YSW, but I would not advise it. Deportation is a very real � and costly � possibility. |
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YSW
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| 11:59 wrote: |
| I object to this post as the poster above is basically claiming to have been employed in Hong Kong illegally. |
No. I had a work visa in my passport. ID cards are a separate issue from visas. ID cards confer few rights, they just make it easier for the government to keep track of you.
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| the motley band of illegal immigrant cannabis-smoking hippie wannabes |
I object to this post as it's a basic troll.
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A'Moo
Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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Location: a supermarket that sells cheese
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| 11:59 wrote: |
| YSW wrote: |
| hkteach wrote: |
If you're arriving here as tourists and want to start looking for jobs while here, you won't be able to rent a flat/apartment/house.
This is because you need a HK ID card to be able to sign a lease, get TV, landline phone and electricity. When you want any of these things, providers of these services always ask for your ID. |
Not in my experience. I never got an ID card till I'd been living and working here for several years. No problem renting, electricity or phone. If you need ID, a passport will do in almost all cases. |
I object to this post as the poster above is basically claiming to have been employed in Hong Kong illegally (if true then that really must have been a great job). Furthermore, it appears that the poster above � YSW � is openly inciting others to commit an identical crime, which is an act that can bring serious repercussions. Technically speaking this post should be reported to the Immigration Department who would follow it up through the owner of this website (request for/seizure of IP addresses and the like).
To the OP, if you want you can go and join the motley band of illegal immigrant cannabis-smoking hippie wannabes on Lamma Island like YSW, but I would not advise it. Deportation is a very real � and costly � possibility. |
What are the penalties in HK for securing phone service and electricity with improper identification? |
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YSW
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| A'Moo wrote: |
| What are the penalties in HK for securing phone service and electricity with improper identification? |
My power bill is in the name of my landlady's late husband. So I hope 11:59 doesn't report me to for improper use of electricity. |
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Charlesm_888
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Location: Hong Kong
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| [No. I had a work visa in my passport. ID cards are a separate issue from visas. ID cards confer few rights, they just make it easier for the government to keep track of you. |
ID cards may be a separate issue but they are a legal requirement if you do not come under the exemptions. You have a work visa therefore you are not exempt.
Who should apply
Under the Registration of Persons Ordinance, all residents in Hong Kong who are aged 11 and above are required to register for an identity card, except those who are exempted or excluded.
Exemptions
People in any of the following categories are exempted from registration :-
any bona fide traveller in transit through Hong Kong who is not staying for more than 180 days;
the aged, the blind and the infirm who have been approved by the Commissioner of Registration for exemption;
children under 11 years of age of consuls, consular staff and the Head and members of the Office of the Commission of the European Communities; and children under 11 years of age
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YSW
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| Charlesm_888 wrote: |
| ID cards may be a separate issue but they are a legal requirement if you do not come under the exemptions. You have a work visa therefore you are not exempt. |
I know (now). That's why I got one.
One day, after being here two or three years, when I was renewing my work visa the Immigration Dept told me all about it. Up till then, I had just assumed it was only for permanent residents, which I wasn't at the time (I am now).
As your text says, if you stay here for more than 6 months for any reason you're supposed to get one.
But it is not a visa, and you don't need one to get a visa. That was my point. And in any case landlords have no right to ask for them. |
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Charlesm_888
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| And in any case landlords have no right to ask for them. |
Landlords do have a right as the value is more than trivial. However, they should also be ready to accept another form of identity e.g. passport if you refuse to show your ID card.
More specifically, a data user is permitted to collect ID card numbers under the following circumstances:
For inclusion in a document that establishes or is evidence of any legal or equitable right or interest or legal liability that is not trivial, e.g. in documents that establish an individual's right of ownership of a flat.
As a condition for allowing the individual to have custody or control of property which is of a value that is more than trivial, e.g. a rental car. |
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YSW
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| Charlesm_888 wrote: |
| Landlords do have a right as the value is more than trivial. |
Ok.
But I never had a problem using my passport, if ID was needed at all.
Most landlords don't care as long as your cheque doesn't bounce. Having your ID doesn't help much if it does.
Far too many businesses ask for your ID number as a matter of routine, regardless of the "value", if any, involved. Most of them do not have any authority to demand it. |
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