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illegalme



Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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Location: Melbourne, Australia

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:56 am    Post subject: Leaving your job early/short term work Reply with quote

Hello everyone.

I'm a Australian university student (final year BA, English and Sociology majors) who is interested in teaching, and plans on becoming a teacher. I am also interested in experiencing ESL teaching abroad, as this is something I currently teach/tutor here in Melbourne (and have done for the past 2 years).

The teaching degree I've applied for is a Masters in Teaching (English and Humanities) and oddly, it goes for 1.5 years - totally out of synch with the Australian schooling system (although it has been designed so that you can take the last 6 months part time whilst working). But otherwise I would be left with a spare 6 months to kill. One option I've thought of is using this extra 6 months to experience ESL teaching overseas, to get a feel for the industry, and also giving me an opportunity to increase my teaching knowledge/skills (as well as flesh out my resume with some experience abroad).

I have noticed almost all contracts are for 12 months, and whilst if I liked the job I would certainly stay for that time, I would be tentatively planning to leave after 6 months. What I would like to know is how do employers treat employees who break contracts? Are they understanding? Will they still give you a reference? Does it disrupt the children's learning? Or is this something that occurs regularly?

I would certainly not like to leave on bad terms, and it would be a useless endeavour if I could not use it on my resume, so any feedback to greatly appreciated.

To narrow this down I will give you the countries I am interested in (in no particular order):

South Korea.

Indonesia.

Japan.

Cambodia.

Argentina.

Costa Rica.

Thanks in advance to anyone who reads/responds to this, I have just realised its quite a lengthy post. And apologies if it is covering ground already trodden on in previous posts, I did use the search function before posting but didn't find any specific answers. Any other general opinions people have about this idea would be welcome, except for people looking to flame, as I said, I used the search function, I already know that certain people think dipping your toe into ESL teaching abroad is 'bad for the industry' and the rep of career ESL teachers etc etc Wink

Thanks again Very Happy
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Rooster_2006



Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Leaving your job early/short term work Reply with quote

illegalme wrote:
Hello everyone.

I'm a Australian university student (final year BA, English and Sociology majors) who is interested in teaching, and plans on becoming a teacher. I am also interested in experiencing ESL teaching abroad, as this is something I currently teach/tutor here in Melbourne (and have done for the past 2 years).

The teaching degree I've applied for is a Masters in Teaching (English and Humanities) and oddly, it goes for 1.5 years - totally out of synch with the Australian schooling system (although it has been designed so that you can take the last 6 months part time whilst working). But otherwise I would be left with a spare 6 months to kill. One option I've thought of is using this extra 6 months to experience ESL teaching overseas, to get a feel for the industry, and also giving me an opportunity to increase my teaching knowledge/skills (as well as flesh out my resume with some experience abroad).

I have noticed almost all contracts are for 12 months, and whilst if I liked the job I would certainly stay for that time, I would be tentatively planning to leave after 6 months. What I would like to know is how do employers treat employees who break contracts? Are they understanding? Will they still give you a reference? Does it disrupt the children's learning? Or is this something that occurs regularly?

I would certainly not like to leave on bad terms, and it would be a useless endeavour if I could not use it on my resume, so any feedback to greatly appreciated.

To narrow this down I will give you the countries I am interested in (in no particular order):

South Korea.

Indonesia.

Japan.

Cambodia.

Argentina.

Costa Rica.

Thanks in advance to anyone who reads/responds to this, I have just realised its quite a lengthy post. And apologies if it is covering ground already trodden on in previous posts, I did use the search function before posting but didn't find any specific answers. Any other general opinions people have about this idea would be welcome, except for people looking to flame, as I said, I used the search function, I already know that certain people think dipping your toe into ESL teaching abroad is 'bad for the industry' and the rep of career ESL teachers etc etc Wink

Thanks again Very Happy


Okay, take my advice with a grain of salt, because I'm new to this, but these are my thoughts. By the way, I don't think you mentioned when these six months are going to be. If they're in the middle of the school year, you're going to have trouble in some of these countries, but if it covers a summer, you're going to do a lot better.

South Korea:
You will have no problem if your six months cover a summer. I know lots of English teachers who come here, teach a summer camp, and then leave, and the contract is only for the summer camp.

Indonesia:
I'm not really sure, because unlike Korea where I've lived for over three years, I've never been to Indonesia. Still, I don't think you'd have much of a problem making a short-term contract, because demand far outstrips supply (everyone know that about Indonesia).

Japan:
As with Korea, check for summer camps, but I'm less hopeful on this, because Japan is way more competitive than Korea. However, since you can get the working holiday visa, you could find something short-term there more easily since you don't have to be sponsored. Lucky. I can't get that visa. I'm jealous.

Cambodia:
Okay, seriously, you can go there and teach whenever you darn well want. Since they don't pay you anything, they can't dictate anything to you. Cambodia is so dirt-poor, they can't hire many English teachers, so most people are volunteers only doing it for a few months, I believe. So you can set your schedule, as far as I'm aware.

While we're on this topic, why is it that all these agencies want volunteers to pay the agency massive fees just to volunteer in Cambodia? If I'm volunteering, should I have to pay anything, since I'm giving my services for no renumeration?

Argentina:
Not really my specialty -- I've lived for over six years in Asia but never in South America.

Costa Rica:
This is also not my specialty.
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Rooster_2006



Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and in regard to breaking contracts, I think that if you choose a country that is either desperate enough to sign a six-month contract or that is doing a summer camp, there won't be a need to do so. Breaking your contract and leaving is a pretty low thing to do unless the employer is a serious buttwagon. I would not expect to get a positive recommendation. I mean, think about it from the school's perspective.
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bigbadsuzie



Joined: 03 Sep 2004
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Location: Turkish privatesector

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rooster_2006 wrote:
buttwagon.


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denise



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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Location: finally home-ish

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Japan, look into the Westgate Corporation. They advertise here (and I believe on www.tefl.com also) fairly regularly. They have contracts for 3 or 4 months.

There are sometimes short-term contracts available--for example, finishing the term for a teacher who has left early. I really don't think there is any one country where you're more likely to find such a situation, though. They just pop up from time to time.

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Rooster_2006



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

denise wrote:
For Japan, look into the Westgate Corporation. They advertise here (and I believe on www.tefl.com also) fairly regularly. They have contracts for 3 or 4 months.

There are sometimes short-term contracts available--for example, finishing the term for a teacher who has left early. I really don't think there is any one country where you're more likely to find such a situation, though. They just pop up from time to time.

d


True, there are lots of short-term contracts everywhere.
Rich Countries: They're rich, so they send their kids to summer camp (and summer camps use short-term contracts).
Poor Countries: They're desperate for anyone to come and teach English, so they're willing to play the game on your terms, somewhat.
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